Driver Hits Multiple Pedestrians Outside Natural History Museum..

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  1. Suave

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    Hi All,

    Just read about this in the DM - yet another incident whereby innocent folks going about their business are targeted by a person using a vehicle as a weapon.

    The fact that the driver must have known a very large number of children would be there just adds to the disgust.

    No info yet if it was just a nutter with issues/grievances or another terrorist attack.

    Driver hits pedestrians outside Natural History Museum | Daily Mail Online

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    No reported deaths and an arrested driver makes me think and hope more drunk driver than religious nut job.
     
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    Good old Daily Mail
     
  4. Suave

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    Hi,

    It is good news that no one has been killed although it is very sad that there have been a number of injuries.

    I too hope it might be something other than a terrorist attack - due to the location & number of children around, I first wondered if it might simply have been a driver that might have lost control somehow - we will have to wait for any CCTV data if there is any.

    Deliberately, targeting an area where large number of children might be slain might be too sensitive a target - even for the terrorists as they may deem that as isolating rather than promoting their agenda.

    I think I read somewhere it was an Uber Driver & if true, the chances it was a drunk is probably quite slim.

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    That didn't stop the bombing of Manchester Arena at an event largely attended by young people and Daesh don't think that way either. They are completely for the genocide of anyone and everyone who is not with them
     
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    2014 Peshawar school massacre - Wikipedia
     
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    What has changed? | Exhibition Road

    What has changed?
    From the beginning of the project we have been committed to making Exhibition Road the most accessible cultural destination in the world.

    To improve access for all members of the community, both disabled and able bodied, we have changed the street design, traffic flows and parking arrangements.

    The new single surface design is kerb-free with the minimum of street furniture and barriers. Having a less distinct ‘track’ for through traffic encourages motorists to drive more cautiously and slowly, with greater awareness and consideration for pedestrians. It also provides greater flexibility in the way Exhibition Road can be used in the future.

    Changes include:
    • a kerb-free single surface
    • no barriers or street clutter
    • a logical street layout with large pedestrian areas
    • visual and tactile lines to distinguish pedestrian areas from those used by vehicles
    • a 20mph speed limit
    • new high quality street lighting
    • a wide and direct crossing in Cromwell Road
     
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    Not a terrorist attack according to The Metropolitan Police
     
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    Many believe that gig was specifically targeted by them for being dense with LGBT and (educationally/sexually liberated) females
     
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    Hi,

    Sadly, I stand corrected & you are absolutely right - so many instances now come to mind where it did not make a difference if children were hurt or not by the likes of ISIS & similar mindset groups.

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    Last Met update ...
     
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    Good to see knee jerk reactions are still flowing well.
     
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    What would you expect with what is currently happening across Europe!

    edit: The World
     
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    Aimed at the OP.
     
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    That is cool as no quote was used I was unsure.
     
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    Nice to see jumping to conclusions is still alive and kicking.
     
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    Is that aimed at the armed police that turned up in numbers and shut down the area?
     
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    I hope we don't have to have a debate about every traffic collision as if it were a potential terrorist incident.

    It's a sign of the times, that this is the first suspicion.
     
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    I have to drive down this mess of a road quite often and it is such a stupid design. It doesn't look like a road for starters, the first time I drove along it I was wondering if I had just turned into a pedestrianised area and should I be driving there at all!

    There are zero road markings and nothing to separate the pedestrian area from the road itself, combine that with crowds of tourists and students wandering out into the road, taxi drivers stopping everywhere and that fact that the seem to be digging a different bit of it up every time you drive down it then it's a wonder that there aren't more accidents.
     
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    That's the thing though, not saying the road arrangement isn't bad but it sounds that because of its nature it does make most drivers unsure and drive more slowly.

    Looking at the pictures this guy hasn't just unfortunately hit a pedestrian at slow speed but has ploughed into people and cars at full pelt. Will be interesting to hear what happened and whether there was any motive.

    And a Prius too, environmentalists are evil :)

    Cheers,

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    It is surprising that he was going at any kind of speed, the road is 20MPH but you will struggle to do that on a good day anyway. From what I can see on the news it looks like it happened by the Cromwell road junction, you can't (or are not supposed to) turn into Exhibition road from there and the junction is always pretty slow when you drive across the traffic lights from the opposite side. Especially in a Prius!
     
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    Plenty of studies to indicate that that actually helps reduce accidents as people will have to think for themselves.

    Unfortunately nothing is a safeguard for idiots who are set to cause damage for whatever reason.
     
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    Hi,

    Not jumping to any knee jerk conclusions at all - if you had bothered to read my posts fully you might have digested the following parts:

    "No info yet if it was just a nutter with issues/grievances or another terrorist attack."

    "I first wondered if it might simply have been a driver that might have lost control somehow - we will have to wait for any CCTV data if there is any."

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    ???

    The very first thing you said was it was an incident where innocent people had been targeted by someone using a vehicle as a weapon?
     
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    Man released in museum crash inquiry

    The 47-year-old had been questioned on suspicion of dangerous driving.

    Beats me how a so called professional uber driver, manages to drive onto a pedestrianised street and run down 12 people. He's managed something even a learner driver on day one would struggle with.
     
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    Hi,

    I was referring to that as read from the DM description of "Pedestrians Being Mowed Down" - from that particular reported headline, one can only infer that it might have & was most likely a purposeful act. Please kindly inform us all where in that particular sentence I used the word "terrorist" or in any way implied that a terrorist act was responsible?

    I simply stated that innocent folks were being targeted by a vehicle used as a weapon - & in no way did I apportion blame to any party in that opening sentence to which you refer.

    May I ask, since the driver has now been arrested - does it not seem that way to you? So if the act was indeed intentional, however motivated, was the vehicle not then used as a weapon to harm others?

    It seems some wish to selectively to ignore my other subsequent comments already posted about how it might not have been a terrorist attack or could have also been a driver who might have lost control - it is there to read in black & white.

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    The driver has been released pending investigation, so it could have been negligence, not malicious intent.
     

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