DreamVision CineXOne

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  1. adamhamilton

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    Is there any news about this projector?

    I was considering the Hitachi PJ2001 but now I've read it's having some problems.
     
  2. Timh

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    Adam, I'm in the same boat :(
     
  3. Walter mitty

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    mmmmmmm........and me
     
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    That makes four of us (although I should say I am more keen on the PLUS Piano). Analogueaddict (who saw the pj in action a while back) said his source had told him it would be out by Xmas, but I cannot find it anywhere. Has anybody seen it in shops (virtual or otherwise), and if so, what's the asking price?
     
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    I'd be interested to hear what other projectors you guys are considering, and your opinion of them.

    Thanks.
     
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    I've just recently posted with a similar quandry as I suspect most of us pj dreamers on this forum are experiencing - the current choices appear to be the Sanyo, Sony & Philips all about the same price all with similar features and quality but all with their various niggles I get the feeling that at this price bracket perfection just ain't gonna happen - I'm going to do my best to check pout the various models if I can track them down & see for myself..ps (there's also been reasonable feedback regarding a Sony projector (the CX1 I think - someone has posted re this already) available at a greatly reduced price from pc world I've heard a couple of people at my work rate this player but what they are comparing it against I don't know...maybe that's the secret - pick one of the 3/4 players you fancy and don't look at any of the others then, as long as it's your first machine - you will never know......


    ;)

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    Because i am in it too!!!. Have left out the latest Sony, as it cannot be ceiling mounted. The Toshiba MT3 is a bit dearer than the others. The problems with the Hitachi do sound worrying..and it is difficult to get hold of other than on the web, so returning it may be an issue if you have problems with it. The leader of the pack is the Sanyo at the moment...but havent looked at the Phillips one...
    as i get more info/feedback, i will post it
    :)
    regards
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    Full specs on both the CineXone and the CineXtwo (latter model is only SVGA res, apparently). Makes for interesting reading, fan noise rated at 35dB, contrast 750:1, 1100 lumens. But no mention of whether RGB/component is possible via HD15 input.
     
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    Nick, whats the web address for dreamvision :confused:
     
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    http://www.dreamvision.net/index_uk.htm

    I've emailed steve at lenbrook who are UK distributers asking about pricing and availability and he's passed my quey onto their DreamVision sales manager...
     
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    Oops... yeah, sorry, probably should have mentioned that, I was in a bit of a hurry. Speaking of Lenbrook, their site makes mention of a page they are constructing for Dreamvision at http://www.lenbrook.co.uk (click on "products" in the menu). I get the impression that this pj will actually get a fair amount of press over here, which bodes well for those of us who insist on reading numerous reviews before committing to a purchase.
     
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    I read somewhere that 800 x 600 svga gives better video playback than 1024 x 768 xga, can anyone comfirm this.
    I noticed on the site there is no mention of duel mode colour wheel, i wonder how bad the rainbow effect is with this dlp.
     
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    Tony.....you said you were ruleing out the sony because it cant be ceiling mounted???? I felt the same at first but whilste in B&Q or Homebase I saw a video mount and it was under £20 and quite smart in appearance (you would have to place the PJ on it like on a shelf). It seems to be able to go on a wall or ceiling. It`s funny looks more to it than a projector mount but the price difference is stagering I thought I may go for one of these if I purchase the Sony HS1
     
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    Walter,

    I am relatively unfamilier with this projector but if it is not suitable for ceiling mounting that usually means it can;t be hung upside down and have the image reversed horizontally and vertically to compensate. So, if you put it on a shelf near the ceiling you may have another problem.

    The image with these things usually starts level with the base of the projector. So, about 12" off the top of the ceiling would be the BOTTOM of the screen image. You'd need to tilt the projector severely to get the whole image on your screen and then apply electronic keystone to get the correct geometry. The more keystone the less pixels used, worse the picuture gets and the throw distance will change. So, if you are going to try it do a dummy run first somehow to see what it'll be like and if it is even possible.

    Gordon
     
  15. ukaudiophile

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    Hi,

    Happy New Year to you all. I hope the Holiday season was kind to you and your family.

    On the CineXOne I'm on the case for you! I'll try to get Steve on the phone later today to get some idea of availability and accurate pricing for you all. I am hoping that the folks at Lenbrook aren't over in Las Vegas for CES 2002 but I suspect that they may have one or two people over there, so please bear with me on this.

    As a brief aside a friend of mine picked up an Epson EMP-50 just befor Christmas (he owns a business and needed a new 'Presentation device'). He was running it over the Xmas period and he's been very impressed with what he's seen so far. He first tried it with his DVP-S7700 DVD player using the internal scaler and the general concensus was that the picture was very good (even his Mother, who isn't a technology enthusiast has been buying DVD's to watch on the big screen), the he tried a notebook PC with internal DVD drive. Well needless to say the picture took a big step forward now we are dealing with progressive scan. I'm going over to his home in the next few days to ensure that the notebook is outputting to the native panel resolution to prevent the internal scaler doing any damage to the image quality. It looks like even the Epson can give good results on DVD when driven via a PC. I'll be interested to see how it compares with my CRT projector based system.

    I'll keep you all posted on the Dreamvision and the tweaking of this cheap HTPC / EMP-50 set up.

    Regards and best wishes,

    Dave
     
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    I got a reply from lenbrook who informed me that the retail price for the cineXone is £3,100. They have them instock (although the first shipment is nearly sold out)
     
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    I did a search for this model at the weekend, the only place I could find it was in Switzerland and it worked out at £3550, so that's not entirely a surprise. Perhaps the SVGA CineXTwo will be ~£2000?
     
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    not quite the bargain we all thought it was going to be though...oh well, back to the piano...
     
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    or the drawing board... :)
     
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    I'm guessing analogueaddict's earlier mention of their being some problem that got in the way of this pj being out by Xmas has something to do with the price hike. I'm pretty sure the colour wheel is dual speed, though, remember hearing so earlier on (possibly on this forum). Piano however, is 4-speed with six-segment (r-g-b-r-g-b) colour wheel. What's more, given that the official line from http://www.plus-ision.com/en/news/2001/1204_piano_europe.html is that the UK is included in a Europe-wide rollout, which thus far has involved a set price of 3499 Euros (£2200 on a bad day). The best thing about this pricing system is it doesn't mean you're tempted to sacrifice the security of a dealer for an online bargain, as Plus are not allowing any resellers to charge less than the set retail price.

    The bad news? There's a specialist AV shop across the road from me (big-money installations a specialty) who told me this pj would not be out over here till mid-spring, probably April. But then that same shop tried to sell me a Bose Lifestyle system at £1150 on the grounds that buying any amp/speaker system for less would be throwing my money away, so it could be they don't know what they're talking about (here's to hoping...);)
     
  21. johnny

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    but i thought retail price fixing was illegal now here?
     
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    No, RRPs are illegal, which is why every time in a magazine review of any piece of kit the price is listed as £x approx as opposed to £x RRP. Manufacturer's are allowed to set uniform prices however, as I learnt when I bought my PS2, complete with spare controller and memory card. When I asked if I could get a discount, I was informed that they could only take money off of 3rd party accessories, as Sony sets a uniform price for all shops to follow (same reason PS2s aren't any cheaper on the net). The reason RRPs are banned is that it takes away an element of freedom from the reseller, but to deny a manufacturer the right to set a uniform price, if so desired, would then be limiting their freedom.

    My understanding is that shops are liable to be fined/not provided with any more stock, should they sell a product at any price other than its uniform price, where one has been set.
     

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