DD's been a fairly successful business/entertainment show for three years now, and today's post-internet global business landscape and practices are very different to the 80s. Just going on this TV Cream description, I can see the similarities, but some obvious big differences too. I very much doubt DD's makers had ever heard of Flying Start when DD began.Kevo said:Talk about re-hashing old TV programmes!
Granada TV did this about 20 years ago with a programme called 'Flying Start'. Not sure if it went out nationally but even back then it featured the usual panel of ad Guys/Good guys.
TV Cream said:FLYING START (1980s)
ODD LITTLE North-West-only business-oriented "gameshow". It was made by Granada in the 80s and therefore, as dictated by the Broadcasting Act, it had to be presented by TONY WILSON. A front for some rubbish North-West new business award competition type thing, each week the managing director of a local "firm" would appear and try and convince a top panel of old deadheads that they were the top cheeses and deserving of this prize. So show stuck to rigourous format - introduction, short Play School-style film about this week's contestant and their activities, then the important grilling from head of chamber of commerce, T. Wilson etc. That was it. Every week. Up against EastEnders. Final show in each series was a big posh black-tie dinner in an expensive hotel in Lancashire, where they decided the overall winner. Prize was distingushed (read: crap) plastic trophy, and large amount of cash (thus giving new business a "flying start" - do you see?). Logo was stylised arrow indicating erm, "flying start". Usually played out over many weeks, and unnoticed after about three editions. A Granada contractual obligation, and, as with all contractual obligations in post-consolidation ITV, dead.
as with The Apprentice and The Armstrongs each episode will be available to watch on the BBC2 broadband site (URL in ash's and my first posts) right up until the current series ends.PoochJD said:....If anyone missed the show, it's repeated next Tuesday night at 11:20pm on BBC2, and then the series continues each Thursday night at 8pm, also on BBC2.
Don't think thats true at all; I read an interview with her recently and she's mates with Jones.soundstory said:Did I read somewhere that Peter Jones & Duncan Ballentyne actually stiched up Rachel on a business deal ?
Anybody shed some light ?
As for S3, it's getting more stage managed every series ! but good fun
Most of the time, the "non-negotiable" tack is so that the Dragons can retain majority control in a business that would appear to be sorely lacking in drive and direction (and where their involvement as a minority partner would have little effect).Kazuya Mishima said:And I don't like the way they DEMAND their cut - someone offers 15% equity, they say "I'll give you 100 grand for 50%, and that's non-negotiable." Or - "I don't negotiate that amount".
She wanted control because it was apparent that the woman selling the picnic bag had no real ambition to grow the business beyond a niche name, she would have been happy making small profits each year, without any real vision, and it seemed obvious that she could not have been persuaded to chage. There would have been a major risk for anyone investing in that sort of business as it would have been many years before they saw any appreciable return on investment. With a 51% stake, the investor would be able to determine where the company went, what it sold, and how it developed, thus hopefully increasing its return. Sound business sense if you are stumping up the money.The one that made me most angry (forgive me if I get this wrong because I was tired and dozing off!) was last night when someone was offered the money in return for 51% equity. What a bloody nerve! Think it was that blonde Dragoness with a face that could turn milk sour. How rude is that, wanting just enough so that "I want to be in control".