Double-layer 8.5GB DVD+R discs, drives to ship April '04

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    Hi

    I also read this. Pioneer and the DVD Forum are not into marketing like the RW Alliance. They typically announce a new product and have availability in the shops within a few months. The RW Alliance is known for early product announcements, and in the case of +RW it was something like 3 years worth of product announcements.

    Do not fall into the trap of thinking DVD-R is behind, it isn't, it is around 5 years ahead of Philips +R!! Pioneer have had 5 extra years to work on dual layer when Philips were missing launch dates and trying to deny they ever said +R could be written to using first generation hardware ;)

    April 2004 may well see hardware supporting dual-layer on "the Box", expect not to see the media in any great quantities or at all for at least another 3-6 months after that. It will not be until the end of 2004 or the beginning of 2005 until the problems of mass-scale manufacturing of the media at cheap prices and firmware issues are resolved to allow good burns and compatibility on existing players. Remember Philips have a history of using customers as BETA testers, Pioneer does not.

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    The arrival of dual layer write-once disks, either + or -, is only the first step.

    DVD+RW set-tops compatible with such disks will still be constrained by the awful ondisk +VR recording format with no sight of a HDD/DVDR combo yet on the horizon. Standalone DVD-R recorders will still have the same limitations they have now (i.e. few editting features when recording to compatible media). It will not be until the technology gets incorporated into HDD/DVDR combos that it will be of significant advantage. Even then there are still going to be 'issues'.

    Odds are single layer media will remain the medium of choice for archiving due to compatibility - however good the dual layer media is it is not going to be better than the existing types. And only time will show how durable dual layer disks (of whatever flavour) turn out to be.

    For people who author on PCs there will also be no immediate benefit - software support for the disks will take a while longer (especially as both Philips and Pioneer are yet to announce their specifications). Burning programmes will be updated quickly but, crucially, DVD authoring software will take longer to update - and until this arrives options for video use of the new media are going to be fairly limited.

    Don't get me wrong - Dual layer media will be excellent provided it turns out to be as reliable and durable as current DVDRs. But it will be at least 12 months before we are using the media and getting the results we are getting now on single layer media. And ultimately for true high bitrate recordings we are still going to have to look towards BluRay...
     

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