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Donnie Darko: what?

Discussion in 'TV Show Forum' started by rhoamish, Apr 4, 2003.

  1. rhoamish

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    I watched Donnie Darko last night, courtesy of Blockbuster.

    What the hell is it all about? Honestly, I've never been so disappointed by a film. I'd give it "boo! out of 10".

    Has anyone else found this film tedious, and deliberately 'quirky'?

    Gilliam does good quirky. Americans do not. And that's scientific fact.
     
  2. James45

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    apparently there's a plot in there somewhere!
     
  3. Rambo John J

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    I don't believe youn should need the commentary, deleted scenes, or the website in order to make sense of a film. But in the case of DD you do.

    I like the film, but the director and editor needed a slap as regards what was left on the cutting room floor (anything resembling a linear storyline) and what was left in the film (nothing resembling a linear storyline). It tends to be appreciated by those that also like David Lynch movies.

    I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone, despite my own liking of it.
     
  4. rhoamish

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    My girlfriend and I decided it was possibly some kind of pessimistic version of 'It's a Wonderful Life', is that somewhere near your interpretation of it? It was still far too disjointed for my liking.

    Perhaps it should have been called 'It's a s*** life, and it's all your fault'...
     
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    Since when was life linear :)

    DD reminded me of an updated, much darker version of several 80's teen movies. Loved it.
     
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    i thought it had a touch of heathers about it in an obscure way.
     
  7. rhoamish

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    The thing with Heathers, was that I understood it. But Donnie Darko didn't seem to hang together at all: the plot was weak, it just seemed like a concoction of poorly thought-out, LSD-inspired ideas lumped together in a sketchy short story.

    It had the potential to be great, but it really failed, as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    Have to say I thought it was great, neat 80´s soundtrack as well, and something completely different to most of the films around now.

    I´ll admit I did have to watch it twice though! First time I thought what the fudge!:confused: :eek: :laugh:
     
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    Herbal Narcotics help me understand it on the first viewing. :smashin::zonked:

    I can't see why people have so much trouble understanding it, made perfect sense to me. Then I didn’t have any troubles understanding Twin Peaks, Fire Walk with Me, Mullholland Drive and Lost Highway. Maybe I’m just weird tho.:rolleyes:

    Donnie has to be one of the best films I’ve seen in a long time. Different folks for different strokes though.:hiya:
     
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    perhaps my intake of lsd in my earlier years made it more palletable for me then:laugh:
    i have only watched it once and really enjoyed it. sometimes you need a film that doesn`t hold your hand and lead you through the story. i thought it was a breadth of fresh air and the black humour was perfect:smashin:
     
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    If you didn't understand it, how can you know whether the plot was weak and poorly thought out or not?
     
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    I thought the plot was weak, because I didn't have a clear idea of what the film was trying to say. It was more a series of sketches.

    Is my 'Wonderful life' analogy near what anyone else thought?
     
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    It's not at all. Do a search ;)
     
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    Do a search? I need to use the internet to find out what the film was about?

    That surely points to a poorly made film?
     
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    Or one that makes you think and requires more effort than just plonking your arse in one place for 90 minutes?
     
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    I meant do a search of the forum and you'll find my previous posts on what you need to do to understand the basics, as well as a conversation I had in one thread on what it was about. You can use the internet too if you want. This is as good a place to start as any, if you want to go down this route: http://www.ruinedeye.com/cd/follow.htm

    It's not my fault you didn't understand it first time round, don't have a go at me :p I understood the crux of it from the film itself, needed the deleted scenes and director's commentary to get round the other aspects.

    Well said Juboy.

    Rhoamish - Depends whether you like a film that gives you everything on a plate in as simple a way as possible, or you like to play detective when watching movies and hunt for clues on subsequent viewings. If you didn't like DD, steer clear of almost all David Lynch movies, as he gives you even less information than Kelly does.

    I love movies like this however - they have an almost perfect 'rewatchability index' as you never get bored of finding out more.
     
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    I understood most of it by the end, apart from why he thought that what transpired was his fault.
     
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    I loved this film even before I saw the deleted scenes and that. It's haunting and beautiful and there are so few films around like it.
     
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    Having heard very little about DD, I watched it without any preconceptions. I am often grabbed by movies for reasons other than plot - in this case the opening shots, going down the hill on the bike, beautiful cinematography, great music that I hadn't heard before (Echo & Bunnymen), got me all-a-quiver and I enjoyed the rest of the movie!
     
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    I really enjoyed this too. :)

    Still remember the discussions we had concerning this film a couple of days after we'd seen it.
    There's certainly a place for films like this, if anything there's just not enough around like it.
    Total quality. And yes I agree the music was also superb.
    Just writing this makes me want to go and watch it again.

    :)
     
  21. rhoamish

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    Well, it was a nicely shot film, I'll admit. And my girlfriend liked the 80's soundtrack.

    But it still seemed to be one of those 'cult for cult's sake' jobs.
     
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    It's one of those films which starts from the premise of 'how can we make this as interesting as possible, yet make something different?'

    BTW I feel that what was cut was worthwhile, as it added to the confusion aspect. Almost Hitchcock like in that way, less information actually makes the suspense greater.
     
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    Yeah, DD was an excellent film. I understood it after doing a bit of research into it, and watching it again made it all worthwhile.
     
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    I watched it last night and thought it was great. pretty much understood what was happening but as SG and others say its likely to reveal more n subsequent viewings. I did whiz through some of the deleted scenes as well which solidified rather than clarified what I thought was the premise.

    Definately a thinker
     
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    OK, so I just watched it for the first time.

    I am struggling to decide whether this film was great becauase it has left me all confused and guessing, or because it gave me all the answers in one sitting.

    At some points during DD, I just wanted it to go on forever, but at then end, I have to say that I was disappointed. I want to watch a movie, and be totally captivated and enthralled for 2 hours, left with a sense of insight and admiration for the director, but with DD, I was just left with a sense of what the fudge?

    I don't want to have to watch deleted scenes to understand a film, neither do I want to make notes as the film progresses just to keep pace.

    For me, this movie had the potential of being rated 9/10, but in the end, fell down to a 8/10 ( I still give Devil's Advocate 9/10 for the first viewing). Call me simple, thick or whatever, but I feel that Richard Kelly just went a little too far.

    I want to be entertailned, not perplexed.

    By the way, in a single sentence, what the hell was the film about?
     
  26. bobbles

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    do a search on these forums MRW and all your questions will be answered

    :smashin:
     
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    Right im going to FINALLY watch it now.

    Squirrel you can explain it to me tomorrow :D
     
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    Did you like it then? :smoke:
     
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    Well i fell asleep :D nothing to do with the film i was just really tired.

    Just finished watching it now, thought the film itself was beautiful. Did really enjoy it but still dont understand all of it. Will defiatley be keeping this one though :smashin:

    Just have to try to work all of it out now
     
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    Well you know what you have to do. All the advice is there :D
     

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