Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by cybersoga, Dec 31, 2002.
Its undoubtedly down to personal preference..but mine is PLII
I prefer to use Noe 6 as then all six speakers will be on whereas PLII does not use the surround back.
They are both good at what they do, some prefer DPLII and say it is better than Neo6, others say DPLII lacks bass.
I have heard DPLII but I only have Neo6 and to be honest I was hard pushed to tell a difference.
One things for sure, they are both better than DPL.
My thought are the PLII is better for cinema and NEO6 better for music
A view comparing the two from a while ago
Thanks for that, I gotta agree DTS NEO:6 music mode does sound like the front l/r are out of phase, a strange under watery sound! NEO:6 cinema isn't so obviously different to DPL II movie mode, but having listened to it for a while I prefer DPL II movie mode. I use DPL II Movie Mode while listening to stuff that's been DPL encoded, and DPL II Music Mode for TV shows and stuff that isn't DPL encoded. I don't use it for listening to music as it suggests, I prefer no DSP effects at all, although I don't listen to music in direct mode because it would bypass bass management. I wonder if there is a quick way of switching surround modes? usually i leave it on DPL II movie mode if i can't be bothered keep changing it while watching TV.
If you don't use a sub in your set up, and have trouble getting decent bass from DPL2, then set your centre to 'LARGE' in the amps set up menu, and voila - nice bass.
Some may already know this, but just for any newcomers - it's a little tip!
DPL2 anyday, the music mode is very cool indeed.
Re-visited this one and yes have changed my mind PL11 is better for music
Direct and stereo has got to be the only way to listen to music IMO. DPLII, NEO6 and DSP's to me make a complete hash of the recording, it's like sticking your head in a dustbin, awful,
Anybody care to offer an opinion if I throw SRS Circle Surround II into the mix?
It's usually found on high-end processors but I'm very interested in purchasing an M-Audio Revolution 7.1 soundcard as it reportedly has an even better implementation of this technology for only $99 (providing you have an HTPC of course). Reading through a few threads on AVS it seems that many people prefer CSII to either DPLII or NEO6.
As a self confessed two channel audiophile, based in valve and vinyl most of the time I used to think NO processing was always best. Devils food and all that. Now I have heard circle, TMS, Trifield and Logic7 (and to a lesser case PL2) I must admit to changing my mind on this somewhat, some of these 'better' DSP are really VERY good in deed and often offer much though it can be better than straight stereo it can also be music dependent. TriField is my pick (Meridian), pity I have Tag equipment at home
Not for the 1st time, i find myself agreeing with The Beekeeper.
He's dead on about the effectiveness of certain DSP modes.
Of course, there are some really awful one's too.
But, when they're done right, they really do offer some great proposals for your CD collection.
I don't think any budget (under £1000) AV Receivers do DSP well for music. On my Sony 1080, DPL2 Music sounds absolutely dreadful and Neo6 is better but no match for 2 channel. Other people report the opposite from their amps. It's probably down to the implementation. For me, I have yet to hear any DSP that improves music but I have not listened to any such modes on proper equipment. Many Tag owners say DPL2 Music actually works. I'm assuming that the Tag implementation must do it a lot more justice than my Sony or they are mad in the head.
On cheap equipment, you pays yer money and takes a chance.
I have a yamaha RX-V620 which has yamaha's 5 channel stereo which is brilliant through a full matching set of speakers, that and dolby digital/DTS are the only settings I use (all the rest are rubbish IMO).
That's 'cos your amp only had PLI. Try one with PLII and you will want it too! Not knocking your amp, I used to own one and loved it.
I've got lots of DSPs on my amp... Cinema Studio EX, V Multi Dimension... it's gonna take me a while to work out what's best!
Bet you a tenner that in 3 months time you won't even bother with those DSP modes and will just listen to it as the film director/artist intended.
ive just been watching 'when trumpets fade'
dolby 2:0 ..recorded
and as a test i switched a lot of the battle scenes
between DPL2 & dts Neo6 and replayed a few times
DPL2 wins easily.
so much more detail was heard.
Neo was losing everywhere. the sound seemed only to
come from the fronts.
DPL2 was producing a great job.
i may have the six surrounds.
But as from today Neo gets the turn off......
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