Discussion in 'TV Show Forum' started by HMHB, Oct 6, 2003.
A bit late as it's already started - but for any Jay & Silent Bob fans - tune into C4 now !!
What about Shannon Elizabeth fans - can we watch too!
Of course (now looking for a smilie with the hands shaking about below the head)
Where does she appear in dogma?
Why is Silent Bob not supose to talk also he was not mentiond in the credits or did I blink?
oops - I was thinking of Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back!
Kevin Smith has never been in the credits of any of his own films.
The reason he does not talk is simple. Kevin Smith can't act. On the "An evening with Kevin Smith" DVD someone actually asked him that, and that was his answer. I feel that that the one or two lines of meaningful dialogue, that he has in each film would not have as much impact, if he spoke throughout the film.
He /does/ talk in Chasing Amy, but then again that's not part of the Clerks/Mallrats/Dogma/J&SB strike back quadrology.
He does speak, but Kevin smith only has a few lines in chasing Amy as with all of the Jersey films.
Chasing amy is part of the "Jersey Chronicles" but it just introduces some different charecters.
You know the funerel Dante and Randall go to in clerks? thats the dead guy that, Ben affleck and Joey Lauren adams talk about in Chasing Amy.
He also speaks in Mallrats.
We could really do with a Jersey Chronicals box set, I enjoyed Dogma more than I have in ages last night.
Should have made my first post a bit clearer really.
He has 1 or 2 lines in all the 5 Jersey Chronicles movies (Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back)
Agreed it's been a while since I last saw it and thoroughly enjoyable it was too
Ah, got you now. Jersey Chronicles meant nothing to me till now
It's a bit more than just a couple of lines - he gives the whole 'chasing amy' spiel 2/3 of the way through the film.
I dont think he speaks anywhere near as much in any other film.
Chasing Amy is the only one I haven't seen, is it any good ?
There is a site somewhere that sells really nice metal cases that you can put all of the 5 DVD's in. They sell them for other collection as well Aliens, Serge Leoni's (sp?) spaghetti westerns etc, etc. Cant remember what the url was though.
its amazing. IMO Kevin smiths best written film to date.
Opinion is divided on that one. Some love it, personally I dont.
I thought there was a large inbalance between humour and drama; additionally whilst the way the relationship progresses /might/ be realistic
1) The whole premise is staggeringly unlikely for a mostly 'serious' drama
2) Ben Affleck's character is nieve in the extreme.
3) The reaction of Ben Affleck's character to Joey Lauren Adams's hockey revelation is severely out of proportion given her history.
4) The suggested resolution to the relationship issues is stupid (and looking at the script now, possibly based on what Silent Bob says - which it makes it even *more* moronic)
It's nowhere near as much fun as Dogma. It is immeasurably superior to the truly execrable (or should that be "excreted") Jay And Silent Bob Strike Back.
It has some quite clever and quite amusing things to say about sex and sexual attitudes - but it is neither quite as clever nor quite as amusing as it thinks it is. Most of the characters aren't very sympathetic - Ben Affleck's character, in particular, is very dislikeable, and when he comes up with his "brilliant" solution to all their problems you just want to hit him. Joey Lauren Adams' character (Alyssa) is quite likeable, but after a while her voice becomes so annoying that you want her to shut up (even if you feel a little guilty for wanting it).
But yes, it certainly has some good moments. I enjoyed the scene (probably gently spoofing a moment in "Jaws") when Alyssa and Banky are comparing scars that they have received while performing cunnilingus.
Horses for courses. I think her voice is very sexy.
That's easily the best scene in the entire film, reminiscent of the best bits of Clerks. Unfortunately after that it goes downhill..
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