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Dog barking 6:30am.

fender6ix

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Initially you have to talk to them. Explain your grievance and what you would like to happen, i.e. waiting for the dog to finish and letting him back in before he barks. If there is no response, contact your local authority, they will ask you to keep a log of the noise etc. They will possibly visit the people and try to negotiate a solution. This does come under anti-social behaviour.
Good luck.
 

Skull n Bones

Well-known Member
Are the new neighbor's home owners, council tenants or private renters. Can make all the difference but you definitely need to speak to them politely and as soon as possible before it affects your health.
 

krish

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Edit: looks like a slightly bigger version to a Yorkshire Terrier thing.
Possibly a Yorkie mix. Yorkies are yappy/noisy and crave attention, so probably all that with separation anxiety when home alone.

I strongly agree with you about not keeping a dog if you don't have the time for it. That's why I haven't got one despite being fond of them. Have done all the homework so know it wouldn't be fair on it at present. Just use mates and YouTube for my fill.
 

Doug the D

Member
Can’t you bore them into submission?

I felt like a real prat when walking out to take like four steps back. Wait until he sits and then go again each time he starts pulling 😂 but it worked.
That's a top technique to stop a dog pulling, I used it on my GSD when he used to pull. At his heaviest, he was 65Kg, so there's no way of really reigning that in with brute force!

I laugh when I see a couple of tiny little people living near me being dragged up the road by these fudging great sled dogs in a harness - top tip dummies; stop putting a Siberian Husky working dog into a harness that it would use to pull a sled weighing 3 times your body-weight and then wonder why it pulls o_O:facepalm:

@John7 - No, a muzzle would not stop a dog from barking, they can still open their mouth to breath and drink. A muzzle is simply a barrier to prevent things going into a dog's mouth, i.e. your arm, furniture, Yorkshire Terriers etc...

@stblob - for the love of god man, just knock on their door and sensibly discuss your concerns/ issues. The fact you have stated that you might not do this in a calm way would perhaps lay some of your problem at your own feet I'm afraid. I completely understand your frustration, I have dealt with the exact same situation you're faced with. Remaining calm and polite can be hard, but you need to rise above any 'red mist' and be the grown-up. Easier said than done sometimes I know (I'm guilty of flying off the handle sometimes, none of us are perfect :)).

If you talk to them and nothing changes or they are rude/ aggressive, then this is the time that you approach your local council/ housing authority (HA) as appropriate and explain the situation to them. There are departments full of people that are set up to deal with nuisance neighbours - if you get no joy, then use them, they will advise you on the next steps, which ime is to create a log or diary of events, with audio recordings to evidence the disturbances. When I rang the HA that owns my neighbour's house to complain, they even sent me a link to a specific noise recording app that they use to link to the case that was created.

There is no point at all in involving the police. As someone may have already said (I did read the thread, honest Guv'), this is a civil matter, the police will simply signpost you in the direction of the HA.

Good luck! :)
 

FireCrackerJim

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When a dog goes yap yap yap all day and the owners cant be bothered taking for a walk, that's not exactly caring for a dog! Is it?
Indeed my neighbour keeps his dog in a cage alot of the day because some of his kids are scared of it.

He tells people it likes the cage, I have never seen an animal that loves being caged up.

Then again he doesn't pickup up dog turds on his lawn he hoses them
 

gibbsy

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He tells people it likes the cage, I have never seen an animal that loves being caged up.
All my dogs, bar one, has loved being in their cage. Put a blanket over it and it becomes a place of safety. They were use to being in a cage in the back of the car and at dog shows. My current Cocker Spaniel loves the boot of the car, the smaller the better, absolutely loved the Scirocco and you don't get many boots smaller than that.
 

FireCrackerJim

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All my dogs, bar one, has loved being in their cage. Put a blanket over it and it becomes a place of safety. They were use to being in a cage in the back of the car and at dog shows. My current Cocker Spaniel loves the boot of the car, the smaller the better, absolutely loved the Scirocco and you don't get many boots smaller than that.
They love being locked up and enjoy it so much they bark all the time?
 

gibbsy

Moderator
They love being locked up and enjoy it so much they bark all the time?
I've kept dogs for over 50 years, I've had Cocker Spaniels, Field Spaniels, Irish Setters and a Labrador. All my dogs have been pets first, show dogs second. All were introduced to cages at a very early age, they have been fed in them and they have all, apart from Trefor, treated their cages as their safe place. It's safer for puppies, especially at night. They are a good way of training dogs for house breaking.

After an initial period in the cages the doors were always left open. The dogs went in there by their own choice because it was their safe place. Trefor didn't like a cage after a bad experience at the vets. He never spent an hour in one after that.

Dogs like a place to bolt to, somewhere where they feel safe, something that is their territory. Dogs in the wild don't live in a comfy lounge or bedroom, they seek the comfort of a small enclosure. We only have one dog now, a 11 year old Cocker. She can sleep where she likes, on the sofa, our bed, yet she choses to sleep under the smallest coffee table which is against a wall.

Our dogs have never been left when either of us have worked, my wife, a photographer specialising in pedigree dogs, worked from home so our dogs were not left alone. When she was in the darkroom for hours she or I would often find the dogs, especially the Irish had retreated to the cage to sleep. If a dog is barking it's not because they have been put in cage and those people who put a dog in a cage and let it bark do not understand dogs and should not be keeping one.

The dog has to trust the cage and know that it's a safe place and not a punishment. I have no hesitation in using one, especially in a car where it is illegal not to have your dog secure.
 

Bl4ckGryph0n

Distinguished Member
I've kept dogs for over 50 years, I've had Cocker Spaniels, Field Spaniels, Irish Setters and a Labrador. All my dogs have been pets first, show dogs second. All were introduced to cages at a very early age, they have been fed in them and they have all, apart from Trefor, treated their cages as their safe place. It's safer for puppies, especially at night. They are a good way of training dogs for house breaking.

After an initial period in the cages the doors were always left open. The dogs went in there by their own choice because it was their safe place. Trefor didn't like a cage after a bad experience at the vets. He never spent an hour in one after that.

Dogs like a place to bolt to, somewhere where they feel safe, something that is their territory. Dogs in the wild don't live in a comfy lounge or bedroom, they seek the comfort of a small enclosure. We only have one dog now, a 11 year old Cocker. She can sleep where she likes, on the sofa, our bed, yet she choses to sleep under the smallest coffee table which is against a wall.

Our dogs have never been left when either of us have worked, my wife, a photographer specialising in pedigree dogs, worked from home so our dogs were not left alone. When she was in the darkroom for hours she or I would often find the dogs, especially the Irish had retreated to the cage to sleep. If a dog is barking it's not because they have been put in cage and those people who put a dog in a cage and let it bark do not understand dogs and should not be keeping one.

The dog has to trust the cage and know that it's a safe place and not a punishment. I have no hesitation in using one, especially in a car where it is illegal not to have your dog secure.
Snap, ours walks himself to it as well. Sometimes retreats to it early. As you said before, he likes it is covered as well. It is a big old thing, and as you said we take it in the back of the car as well and he happily jumps in and out of it. Protects him from the rest of the luggage as well.

firecrackerjim really must have some prison or lonely kennels in mind when he talks about no animal likes being caged up. It is not like that at all.
 
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leo79

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I was always against crates but our 'pretend' dog, a puggle wouldn't settle at night. A vet friend suggested getting a crate and it worked instantly, left the door open, put in some nice throws and some toys and he would run straight into it after his night time wee and still be curled up at 7am when we came downstairs.
He hasn't been in it for about a year now but we take it with us when we go on walking holidays. He loves it.
 

FireCrackerJim

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I've kept dogs for over 50 years, I've had Cocker Spaniels, Field Spaniels, Irish Setters and a Labrador. All my dogs have been pets first, show dogs second. All were introduced to cages at a very early age, they have been fed in them and they have all, apart from Trefor, treated their cages as their safe place. It's safer for puppies, especially at night. They are a good way of training dogs for house breaking.

After an initial period in the cages the doors were always left open. The dogs went in there by their own choice because it was their safe place. Trefor didn't like a cage after a bad experience at the vets. He never spent an hour in one after that.

Dogs like a place to bolt to, somewhere where they feel safe, something that is their territory. Dogs in the wild don't live in a comfy lounge or bedroom, they seek the comfort of a small enclosure. We only have one dog now, a 11 year old Cocker. She can sleep where she likes, on the sofa, our bed, yet she choses to sleep under the smallest coffee table which is against a wall.

Our dogs have never been left when either of us have worked, my wife, a photographer specialising in pedigree dogs, worked from home so our dogs were not left alone. When she was in the darkroom for hours she or I would often find the dogs, especially the Irish had retreated to the cage to sleep. If a dog is barking it's not because they have been put in cage and those people who put a dog in a cage and let it bark do not understand dogs and should not be keeping one.

The dog has to trust the cage and know that it's a safe place and not a punishment. I have no hesitation in using one, especially in a car where it is illegal not to have your dog secure.
i dont think this dog has a choic
Snap, ours walks himself to it as well. Sometimes retreats to it early. As you said before, he likes it is covered as well. It is a big old thing, and as you said we take it in the back of the car as well and he happily jumps in and out of it. Protects him from the rest of the luggage as well.

firecrackerjim really must have some prison or lonely kennels in mind when he talks about no animal likes being caged up. It is not like that at all.
It's only a cage when you lock the door
 

stblob

Well-known Member
Well, had a chat with them today about the fact that I don't need or want a wake up call at 6:30 in the morning. He didn't seem to care but went off on one with her when I left. Lol. She was apologetic but her facial expression shows me that she's a two faced "B".
Oh well. We shall see.
 

mooperman

Distinguished Member
Whats disgusting about the dog needing the toilet at 6.30am or am i missing something?

We let our dog out on waking (he's got very good at standing by the door when he needs to go out) and then he gets walked a couple of hours later once the rush hour dog walkers have done and finished (ours is reactive so we avoid normal times for walks).
 

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