Do you use walkthroughs and guides to complete games

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  1. Redline

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    Just wondering what your views are on using walkthroughs and guides to complete games. Is it classed as cheating? I find it hard to believe that people have completed some games without the help of walkthroughs to find for example: All the flags on Assassins Creed, The Intel's on COD4, All the relics and treasures on TR Underworld. If i am really stuck on a level i do resort to a guide as last resort. I also used a guide to find the relics on TR Underworld after completing the game first and doing it again.
     
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    I only use a walkthrough on the net as a last resort if I get stuck wandering round in circles for a few hours. Other than that, not a chance.

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    i wouldn't say it's cheating to use a guide to find something, the pigeons in GTA 4 for example, i wouldnt never use one for playing through the game though, what's the point in that.
     
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    As per our convo, not massively convinced there are any easy points anymore. even following vids or guides you can often end up replaying to get it right. IMHO Walkthroughs and Guides are great for keeping people playing when they might normally give up. If you don't want to use a walkthrough you can play a game legit, always nice to know there is help if you need it.
     
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    I use walkthroughs if I get stuck and just cannot find a way to move on. After about 300 attempts to kill 'Raam' in GOW I just had to search the walkthroughs and even watched YouTube Vids as I was beginning to think it was impossible! Try to avoid them unless absolutley necessary and never use them for unlocking acheivements - spoils the fun!:D And yes, that bad ass Raam was no more........:thumbsup:
     
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    Just an echo of what's already been said, but no, I don't use them unless I'm absolutely desperate and have given up hope. And I always regret it afterwards, makes me feel cheap and dirty. :lol:

    That said, I do like reading through them once I've finished a game to see how other people have done it.
     
  7. Redline

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    I think the internet has made games to complete a lot easier. The temptation to have a 'quick look' on youtube when you are stuck on a level. I remember the days of the PS1 before internet was available, if you got stuck on a level you either had to phone a premium hotline or go to the newsagent and flick through the mags for a walkthrough.
     
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    I've got no problem with using guides, if I'm stuck without a clue how to get past a point I'd much rather look it up than spend 2 hours frustrated with no idea repeatedly dying and re-starting.
     
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    What are you on about ? The internet was certainly around when the PS1 was current as were online walk throughs and cheat guides. Gamefaqs.com was around then and still is and provided walk throughs and cheat guides on most games on the consoles of that time. I'm sure there were other online sites that did the same thing. :eek: :confused:
     
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    I suppose what i meant to say is, i never had access to the internt in 1994 when the PS1 was launched. Gamefaq.com was launched in Nov 1995.
     
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    i've only found 2 :D
     
  12. Moogle

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    That's just semantics. The web site has been around for the majority of the PS1's existence. Fair enough regards the internet but your previous post implied that there was no internet not that it wasn't available to you. I had access to the internet and use to use sites like Gamefaqs when I got stuck in a game back then.
     
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    i only use the ones on the net when im stuck doing sometime more then 100 times!!! or to find secret items like pigeons for example.
     
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    I only use a guide or walkthrough when I'm stuck and cant figure out what to do - can usually find one online as text or a video on youtube. A recent example being a section I couldnt clear on mirrors edge where I had to do a series of different jumps.

    However, every time I buy a new game I always find an achievements list and print if off. I know some may think its a little sad, but I usually only have time to play through a game once so want to pick up as many cheevos as I can on my play through. This means I can find all the hidden stuff and do the certain things needed at the right times throughout the game, without having to go back a repeat certain bits.

    The only time I've used a proper 'store brought prima guide' was with GTA 4. The game was bloody huge and using the guide meant I didnt miss stuff like the random characters etc.

    Maybe its different for someone who has more time to game, but for me this is how I do it. Rightly or wrongly
     
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    No, in most cases if you did, you may as well just buy the game and get someone else to play it for you....

    The only instances that differ is if a guide allows you to get more from the game (maybe by telling you about things you didn't know about), but without telling you how to do stuff....
     
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    My view - play the game how it was intended and go exploring for yourself.

    Only use a walkthrough / guide / map when you get stuck...
     
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    I do use guides and FAQs to complete games.

    I don't start off with them but use them when I get stuck (or go to the play and help threads over here).

    I also use them after I have completed a game to get some extra achievements.
     
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    I use them to stop me getting too annoyed with the game. I don't see the problem to be honest as I'd rather play the game through with the aid of a walkthrough than give up and not finish it because I got too annoyed. Maybe I'm just ot hardcore enough :D
     
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    Yeah what you said


    I remember finding a Golden, flying goose in The Faery Tale Adventure (Amiga)

    I wanted to tell my mate where to find it, but he was having none of it :D

    To this day, he has never had the pleasure of flying on the back of the Golden Goose :)

    I dont get it
     
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    Currently using with one with Fallout at the moment.
     
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    I only tend to use them for games where there are things you might miss... like Fallout 3 or Mass Effect. Even then I only refer to them briefly, rather than rely on them to hold my hand from start to finish. I would never buy a guide though... not when we have sites like GameFaqs, Achieve360points, Xbox360Achievements and TeamXbox offering really good guides, FAQs and walkthroughs for free.
     
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    I don't tend to use them on some of the smaller games such as COD but I think they are fine on the massive scale games as long as you don't just follow the mission walkthrough all of the time which can take away from the game experience. They can help you find things and have a better experience on the games.

    So far I've only used a couple one on GTA San Andreas and one on Oblivion which let me find loads of places I don't think I normally would have.
     
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    Personally I think reading a game guide is like a huge spoiler, I'd rather have the satisfaction of completing the game on my own merit even if it means I didn't unlock all the game secrets or whatever it happens to be. That said, I would resort to looking online if I came across something that stopped me from playing the game but only after many failed attempts.
     
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    You get spoiler free guides for a lot of games now :smashin:
     
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    i usually do on a 2nd or 3rd play through. however, fallout is the exception to the rule. i didnt want to mess up any quests so i checked best order to do them in.
     
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    I try and avoid them entirely on the first pass. I'll often use them afterwards to find all the collectibles that I missed on the first run through. If I get massively frustrated with a small section I'll occasionally go and look it up as I know that if I set the game aside because of this then I'll likely never return to it.

    I also rarely look at the list of Achievements available on my first run-through so everything is completely fresh and unspoiled.
     
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    There's an oxymoron for you! :D
     
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    the fallout 3 wiki on the net is a godsend!
     
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    [​IMG]

    and another :rotfl:

    I am going to be using a guide for item locations in Bully. I did the Gargoyles in Fable 2 by myself..........spent a whole day looking for the last one :mad: Since then I have vowed to leave all collectibles till the end of a game and use a guide. I just don't enjoy it otherwise.
     
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    Steve, Bully is probably the easiest game ever to find items, as they are marked on the in-game map. :thumbsup:
     

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