Do you need upgradable eDrums? AVF unOfficial HD1 thread

Have you actually ever upgraded your eDrum kit?

  • Yes - added second pedal

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes - added 1 cymbal

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes - added 2 cymbals

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes - added 1 tom

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Yes - added 2 toms

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4

Stinja

Distinguished Member
Ok, time for a proper Roland HD-1 thread methinks :smashin:

So first my huge massive caveat:
Yes they can not be upgraded*. If you want to upgrade at all you should buy a secondhand TD3 or TD4/TD9XX/TD12/TD20, you're essentially stuck with a stock kit - ponder that! My thoughts are purely as a newby PS3 Rock Band Hard difficulty gamer. I'm not a drummer and never used the HD1 on the 360 (i own a Xbox, hence i lurk...)

That done, what's good about the HD1? Well you get Roland quality components, geekoids have pulled them apart and they're the same as big-brother bits, but sometimes the sensors dont have all the components for multi-triggers/rimshots etc. The three cymbals are CY5s, the three rubber toms are PD8s and one snare PDX8 (mesh). The form factor is very compact, and it's much easier to pack away, pull out, carry up down stairs very quickly compared to rack kits. It provides MIDI out so you can use it as a trigger kit, and let a PC program handle all the drum kit noises you might want, removing the "limited brain" issues. You can use both kick pedals as bass pedals, getting double bass built in can save a lot compared to the massive premiums rack kits seem to need. The feedback and precision from the toms and cymbals are far beyond stock GH and RB kits. For me, it's almost the perfect gaming eDrum kit.

Bad things: well not upgradable easily*, you get the dubious fun of "proper" rack eDrum kits like cross-talk-doubly-hitty stuff, its much bigger than say a GH:WT drum toy. To really get benefit you may want a drum monitor. Limited built-in drum sounds in brain. Oddities of the kick pedals. You will be mocked a lot by people with "proper" eDrum kits ;)

Here's a few reviews for people that cant google:
Roland HD1
Roland HD-1 Electronic Drum Kit | Reviews | MusicRadar.com
YouTube - Roland HD-1 V-Drums Lite Review Part 1 from the Live 2 Play Network.

(Old pic, i really need to take a new one...)
rolandhd1.jpg


My own setup is to a PS3 via a custom MIDI adapter called a "SethBox". It's just like the new RB3 MIDI adapters i believe, but it also allows for some custom mappings, hence i can map the left (hihat) pedal to bass kicks - im not certain if the RB3 one allows this. I use a DR-30 drum monitor, which is cheaper and louder than the official HD1 monitor. I use Zildjian 7A Anti-vibe drum sticks, with Vater grip tape - i highly recommend burning any drum sticks from stock game-kits and buying real sticks! Been using the HD1 now for well over two years, and i bought it secondhand for £300, so durability has been good. The hihat gives me double hit issues now, might be a sensor issue, but as im not too hung up about scores i don't mind the odd score-break because of the kit. I'd really like to see Roland do a HD1KX mesh kit, or allow other Roland parts to be swapped in easier, but oh well.

To Summarise: i find the HD1 a very good gaming eDrum kit. It's not perfect, but if you just want a decent quality eDrum kit for videogames to improve the experience it's worth considering.

SethBox vs old GHWT module, which i hacked out of the kit:
sethboxvsghwt.jpg


Why you might want an eDrum kit, try playing this on a stock GH/RB drum set:
YouTube - Through the Fire and Flames Played on a Roland TD-9KX V-Drum Kit (GH: Smash Hits Expert+ Drums)

* at least easily by normal people. There are things that have been done, but only by the obsessive drum geeks with electronic skills. For most just buy a bloody TD3/4 already!
 
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AndrewH13

Distinguished Member
Thanks STINJA, useful info.
 

Tufty McTavish

Well-known Member
Not sure if this is appropriate for an HD1 thread, but I have found upgradable e-drums to be rather useful.

I bought an e-drum kit and added a kick-pedal - I later replaced said kick-pedal with a far superior model that is still with me years later.

I have replaced all the toms (not added, actually replaced with better units). That made things much better to my mind. I'm very glad I did so.

The kick pad was also getting a bit worn from the continual beating it takes from the beater on the kick-pedal. So that recently got replaced too.
 

Stinja

Distinguished Member
Not sure if this is appropriate for an HD1 thread, but I have found upgradable e-drums to be rather useful.
Go for it: trying to promote discussion on what drummers can or should do for their next step beyond the stock game kits - and specifically info on the HD1 (compared to the general eDrum thread)

So are you the person who put 3+ toms and cymbals? I can see if you've replaced them, but if someone has added on top of the original drums, they must be like Neil Pert surrounded by a see of things to hit! Mostly wondering if edrum owners never upgrade, is such a feature worth while?
 

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