do you live in a corporate town?

Mylo

Novice Member
It seems the local council is allowing Slough to be taken over by a rather large supermarket chain:( Not only do we have the biggest superstore in Europe but also at least 5 extra stores within a couple of mile radius eating up ‘local shop' sales. Coupled with a prime location they were using now having been boarded up for several months and no sign of the promised development.

Is this a local problem or a UK problem?
 

lostinspace

Well-known Member
Doncaster's the same I reckon. We've just gone through about 3 years of development work on the main shopping centre just so that Debenham's can move in. The council and mayor have ignored the fact that putting the bus station immediately below that store, and ensuring that you have to walk past it to get anywhere in town has meant that the other shopping areas of the town are now struggling so much that they will inevitably fail through lack of footfall.
Even the market, for which Doncaster was once famous, is being allowed to die.
One wonders whether something untoward went on during planning. The council went into the project ignoring advice from internationally renowned experts, of the effects of such a development, and with Donnygate still fresh in the memory, I just wonder if this should be labelled Donnygate:The Sequel.
It is apparent that nobody apart from the mayor and Debenhams wants the bus station where it is- miles from the market, frozen food specialists, and many more long- established retailers.
 

signs

Banned
A couple of years ago I was putting up some signs on quite a large out of town retail park, I was short of a few fixings so I nipped into the local town and I would say 75% of the shops had shut down due to the edge of town retail park. There was one sign in a butchers window that I will never forget, it read;
'could the last person in town please switch off the street lights' !
The death of a town
 

The Dude

Distinguished Member
Sorry to hear about Doncaster...

Beverley is still holding out well, albeit under heavy attack at the moment.
The council are currently plotting a huge retail park on the outskirts of town, but it's unlikely it will ever go through. It'll end up as affordable housing instead if they want to keep their jobs.

It took the best part of 5 years for Tesco to get authorised, and there's still a big fuss being made by the town centre traders a few years after the store has opened.
McDonalds have been shown the door every time they try, that won't be changing anytime soon by the looks of things.

Smaller towns in the North will always be OK I think? it's just the bigger towns up here, and obviously anywhere in the south, that will soon all be cloned.

We've got an M&S simply food store in the marketplace now, and a Subway tucked away at the far end of town, but that's about it really. :thumbsup:
 

indianwells

Well-known Member
The Dude said:
Sorry to hear about Doncaster...

Beverley is still holding out well, albeit under heavy attack at the moment.
The council are currently plotting a huge retail park on the outskirts of town, but it's unlikely it will ever go through. It'll end up as affordable housing instead if they want to keep their jobs.

It took the best part of 5 years for Tesco to get authorised, and there's still a big fuss being made by the town centre traders a few years after the store has opened.
McDonalds have been shown the door every time they try, that won't be changing anytime soon by the looks of things.

Smaller towns in the North will always be OK I think? it's just the bigger towns up here, and obviously anywhere in the south, that will soon all be cloned.

We've got an M&S simply food store in the marketplace now, and a Subway tucked away at the far end of town, but that's about it really. :thumbsup:
I'm up in Beverly for 4 days 1st week in September for the caravan trade show.We always stay in the Beverley Arms Hotel.A lovely little town if I may be so bold.We used to stay in Hull but it's a bit like the wild west at times!:hiya:
 

Miniholic

Well-known Member
Doncaster has been headed downhill for a while, even the mayor was quoted recently as saying he doesn't do much shopping in the town. The new interchange development has added a lot of retail space, but most of it has been taken up by shops that were already in the town - Debenhams being one of the few exceptions - so they are just moving the focus of the town centre, rather than boosting it. But at least we have now got a real bookshop for the first time in over 10 years, and in the last year Cafe Nero and Costa Coffee have arrived, with Starbucks opening soon, so we are slowly moving into the 20th century.:rolleyes:

Most of the town centre is now being overrun by bars, its getting like the wild west on a friday night (but with more chavs).

Oh, and Mylo, we've now got more Tescos than McDonalds, which must be some sort of record.
 

The Dude

Distinguished Member
indianwells said:
I'm up in Beverly for 4 days 1st week in September for the caravan trade show.We always stay in the Beverley Arms Hotel.A lovely little town if I may be so bold.We used to stay in Hull but it's a bit like the wild west at times!:hiya:
If you get the chance, you should go check out the Sun Inn, and the Monks Walk, they're both down by the Minster. The two best pubs in town, and probably two of the best you'll ever drink in.

Get in touch if you fancy going for a few one evening.. :hiya:
 

lostinspace

Well-known Member
Just to update on my previous contributions, I just nipped to town this morning. It's been pouring down all night with no sign of it stopping.
Guess what. Some of the new stores are not opening today due to "severe water damage".

So not only did we locals get a very expensive town centre we didn't want, in a place we wouldn't have wanted it either......the %$*!ing council didn't even make sure it was built properly.

Seems to me our council is awful. Corruption in the past (proven), numerous ongoing investigations into the mayor, and the few councillors who raise their voice in opposition don't matter that much because the leadership does as it likes anyway.

Are Doncaster council the worst in the UK?
 

stealther

Novice Member
lostinspace said:
Just to update on my previous contributions, I just nipped to town this morning. It's been pouring down all night with no sign of it stopping.
Guess what. Some of the new stores are not opening today due to "severe water damage".

So not only did we locals get a very expensive town centre we didn't want, in a place we wouldn't have wanted it either......the %$*!ing council didn't even make sure it was built properly.

Seems to me our council is awful. Corruption in the past (proven), numerous ongoing investigations into the mayor, and the few councillors who raise their voice in opposition don't matter that much because the leadership does as it likes anyway.

Are Doncaster council the worst in the UK?
I ve only been there once and we know a couple who are from there one of which would have you believe that the sun never sets in Doncaster:rolleyes: The other one thinks that the town should be demolished to make a bigger car park for the Rovers:rotfl:

Ive lived in 3 council areas so far with Plymouth being the worst one in my opinion thus far. They recently admited a hugely unpopular costly traffic calming scheme didnt actually work and were going to reverse it at the tax payers expense. They are also a couple of months away from opening a large shopping mall on the outskirts of the town centre. It remains to be seen what affect that will have on local traders but I am betting it wont be good.
 

Mylo

Novice Member
So it is indeed a national problem then. The latest store to open is on a site that is notorious for armed robberies. Maybe the multinational store will put an end to this. Having seen the size of their security guard I doubt it though.:rolleyes: The small local shops really shouldn't have to compete for trade, but the council obviously does not see this as a problem.

On the plus side, the large group of Neds often seen outside of the old shop has been moved at least 50 yards away :rotfl:
 

Miniholic

Well-known Member
lostinspace said:
Are Doncaster council the worst in the UK?
Maybe, but some of the staff are fantastic. ;)

stealther said:
The other one thinks that the town should be demolished to make a bigger car park for the Rovers:rotfl:
Strange that, Asda wanted the Rovers demolished, so that they could have a bigger car park.:D

I'm sure your friend will love the new Rovers stadium, 15,000 seats, and 1,000 car parking spaces.:rolleyes: There is rumour of them only letting people who car share use it.:suicide:
 

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