Cherry Bakewell
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Not often.
They seem to hate everything fun, which I've always wondered about.
They seem to hate everything fun, which I've always wondered about.
I think his last review on the BBC and was mentioning up and coming films and was bewildered in his comments at the first X-Men film.It was so much easier back in the 80s when we just had Barry Norman, whatever he liked I absolutely would not and vice versa, although you could get away with the odd massive blockbuster that he gave his grudging respect
It was quite amusing, I was in my late teens/early twenties while he was reviewing, peak action film arguably, and I was watching a couple of films at the cinema each week when there was enough out.I think his last review on the BBC and was mentioning up and coming films and was bewildered in his comments at the first X-Men film.
I think Johnathan Ross was more inline with the general film going public than Mr Norman was, although still enjoyed his reviews. Dont know if it was picked for him to watch but at a good guess Id say his reviews on subtitled films had a larger percentage of likes than English speaking ones, Although did make me want to watch Cinema Paradiso which I totally enjoyedIt was quite amusing, I was in my late teens/early twenties while he was reviewing, peak action film arguably, and I was watching a couple of films at the cinema each week when there was enough out.
He completely missed my whole demographic, yes he could predict the Oscar winners but he was such a tragic luvvy it made his reviews pointless for us regular folk
You're probably right, and watched Film 80s and 90s with Norman as I knew exactly what his tastes were so knew which films to watch and which to avoid.I think Johnathan Ross was more inline with the general film going public than Mr Norman was, although still enjoyed his reviews. Dont know if it was picked for him to watch but at a good guess Id say his reviews on subtitled films had a larger percentage of likes than English speaking ones, Although did make me want to watch Cinema Paradiso which I totally enjoyed
Sometimes there are only 2 stars but I liked the movie !
Exactly. This is what I meant in my previous post. Particularly in the 80s/90s, “serious” critics were completely out of step with popular opinion (particularly as I was in my teens/20s at the time). Barry Norman was very sniffy about the future action classics of that era. People like Mark Kermode still have a bit of the luvvy vibe.It was quite amusing, I was in my late teens/early twenties while he was reviewing, peak action film arguably, and I was watching a couple of films at the cinema each week when there was enough out.
He completely missed my whole demographic, yes he could predict the Oscar winners but he was such a tragic luvvy it made his reviews pointless for us regular folk
Exactly. This is what I meant in my previous post. Particularly in the 80s/90s, “serious” critics were completely out of step with popular opinion (particularly as I was in my teens/20s at the time). Barry Norman was very sniffy about the future action classics of that era. People like Mark Kermode still have a bit of the luvvy vibe.
It depends what you want from your critics. If it’s just the artistic merit of the film, then arguably Barry Norman was authoritative, but as an 18yr old, I certainly would quite liked to have had an idea of the entertainment value of the movie as well, particularly when presented on a mainstream TV show (as opposed to some arts show). When Bazza slagged-off an action movie, it was hard to tell whether it was genuinely rubbish, or just a knee-jerk reaction to a blatantly popcorn movie. Luckily, he was oddly entertaining in his delivery, so it didn’t really matter what he thought.Is it really "sniffy" for them to not like the same films as you though? Could you guys be accused of being sniffy by calling Kermode/Norman luvvies for disliking the movies you like?
I think if you watch a lot of films. like critics do, action movies probably feel a bit repetitive - bigger bombs, more CGI etc, but not a lot that's original beyond that.
Absolutely spot on about "The 355" and HOH!They were much more high brow in the early 90’s when I started reading it.
Quite middle of the road now, take this weekends The 355 for example, an absolute stinker, I’ve not checked but I’m sure this’ll get three stars from them, more than likely Helen O Hara.