Is this a thread on Brexit?
I think it is inevitable in the context of this topic. Most likely if the sentiment wasn't felt like this, and concerns like the OP voiced were dealt with and able to be discussed without being afraid to be constantly labelled when you say one wrong word in the mind of someone else, then it is entirely possible that Brexit wouldn't be happening.Is this a thread on Brexit?
Do you realise if the EU had stayed as the common market we wouldn't be leaving, hence how much disruption they caused?We have shown the EU that people can be pushed too far. The weaker pound has also benefited our balance of trade, our exports and increased tourism. Also we have hit records levels of employment despite the government prediction of what would happen if we left.
New trade deals with the rest of the planet, not be shackled to a failing bureaucracy, not be the EU's cash cow, independence.
Really? Who knew that was your thought?
Exactly. I don't want to pay the EU anything or be shackled to it. I seriously hope no deal is reached.
He has a radio programme. If only there was some kind of resource where you could enter questions and get answers...
It's fine to dislike loud people. Not racist. Assuming and judging, and treating all Americans because you think they're all like that, that's racist.
Totally racist. Fine to hate the Nazi party for starting the war or perhaps even the man who killed your father, but judging all Germans for something they had no part in or even knew about is racist.
This is exactly the sort of confusion I was talking about in my post on the first page of this thread. Trying to teach my 11 year old exactly what constitutes racism is a proving problematic, because (I believe) she's growing up in a world where the word 'racist' is used when people of the same race say something unpleasant about each other.
Maligning all Americans because the few you meet are a bit loud, or branding all Germans 'Nazis' is not racist, it's a stereotype. Okay, in Germany that particular stereotype, if publically used can land you a 6 month jail sentence, but it wouldn't be a 'racism' offence.
I'd say prejudiced would be more fitting, but it could even be xenophobia if that's a common way of thinking about foreigners for them.
Racism, xenophobia, prejudice are all terms used to describe very similar reactions to people that are different, be that physically, the accident of birth place or by religion or culture. Racism just seems to have been adopted as a catch all term.
Racism, xenophobia, prejudice are all terms used to describe very similar reactions to people that are different, be that physically, the accident of birth place or by religion or culture. Racism just seems to have been adopted as a catch all term.
Usually those who love to point out that there's a difference have an agenda for doing so.
Then those people are simply wrong.Plus some people think that you cannot be racist unless the perpetrator holds a position of power over the victim. It's the power aspect that moves the harm from prejudice to racism.
The vast majority are either doing everything they can to wreck the process or get reverse the decision or at the very least waiting for it all to go tits up, just so they can say “see, we told you, we were right along”
So you don't consider actively campaigning against something as an obstacle? Remain campaigners aren't putting obstacles in the way of our negotiating position, we have no negotiating position, apart from "Please can we keep all of the benefits but none of the drawbacks of being in your club." Surprisingly, this is not working out very well.The difference being, had Remain one, we’d still have the status quo, he wouldn’t be putting obstacles in the way of our negotiating position.
There are great people and assholes in all walks of life - it doesn't do anyone any favours to dismiss individuals due to them belonging to specific categories. Just my take on it.
Looks like you've contradicted yourself there?
"Great" and "asshole" are subjective qualities which cross objective taxonomy. One person's great is another's asshole but whether somebody is black, gay, or Muslim isn't up for debate.
So Great and Asshole aren't the boxes Kav discussed. People don't put themselves in an asshole box do they?
I just had a vision of an official form with tick boxes for "great" or "asshole"So Great and Asshole aren't the boxes Kav discussed. People don't put themselves in an asshole box do they?
I just had a vision of an official form with tick boxes for "great" or "asshole"
So when the lady was talking/speaking out to Gordon Brown about immigration and jobs was she a bigot?as Gordon suggested
Only 52% of voters stuck their fingers up at Brussels: the other 48% still haven't excepted the outcome. They variously say that the 52% are racist, old and too thick to understand and have stolen their future.Of course we have a voice. We've just stuck two fingers up to Brussels.