Do you drive inappropriately ?

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  1. Mylo

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    In a bid to save the planet, ok some petrol :D, I was playing the speed limit game on the journey home tonight.
    You drive at the posted speed limit at all times. To make sure the journey is fun you can also take roundabouts at the same speed if safe to do so.

    This was obviously really annoying the car behind me as it was interfering with her phone call, no hands free kit of course, so she started to tailgate me :suicide:
    When we approached a two lane roundabout she attempted to undertake me, in a Ford Ka :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
     
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    I regularly drive at bang on the speed limits (especially 30 zones) and it's fairly common to have some idiot tailgating me. Of course, a quick flicking on of the rear fog lights usually does the trick and has me in stitches. I tend to just let people get on with it, if they wanna overtake I'm not going to stop them. It's amazing how few people who tailgate keep up with me in a 60 zone with a few corners (not that I speed, but I don't slow down for corners unless I have to :smashin:)

    There are very few people who ever do 30 in a 30 and the only time I tend to push the speed limit a little is on the motor way or dual carriage ways where it tends to be safer to do so. At the moment (touch wood) I'm the only one of my circle of friends who doesn't have any points on my license which is quite an achievement with the amount of speed cameras in my area.

    Of course, this is all likely to change when I get my new car (Audi S4 or BMW 330), I won't be breaking the speed limits in residential areas, but come motorway time that might be a different story ;)
     
  3. ijd

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    the limit is exactly that, 30 mph is not a target but the maximum, so if you want to sit at 25mph that is your prerogative, and so on.
     
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    Do i drive inapproprately...... Yes in some respects, no in imo most!.

    i tend to ignore speed limits and drive at a speed I personally feel is safe.

    This means tending to drive slow in a 30, but on a clear road, not too busy in dry conditions i rarly do 60, and never stick to 70 on a motorway unless its busy/raining/foggy etc. That being said, the speed limit was made years ago, at a time when cars were far less safe / responsive than now.

    On the other hand i NEVER tailgate, try not to get wound up at people, and dont middle / fast lane hog.

    I always try to let people out when safe to do so and if people are in the wrong lane and are trying to get in the correct one i tend to be courtous and let them in **** unless they are queue jumping ***


    Things i hate......

    middle lane hogs

    tail gaiters

    people driving too slow and not pulling to the left to make it easy to overtake
    people who site waiting at a junction (sorry ladies but usually women) who are not even looking for a gap to come along so i slow right down and flash them ultimately holding all the traffic up.

    queue jumpers

    people who dont acknowedge you when you let them out

    people who try and speed up when you get along side them to stop you over taking......


    the end ;)
     
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    imo if the road is clear and all other things being equal, i dont think it is courtious to dawdle.... if a driver is noty capable of controlling a car safely at 30 i am not sure they should be on the road....

    Dont forget in most cars an indicated 30 is actually around 27 so if someone is doing 25 its nearer 20.

    at the very least if you cant do 30 i think its only fair to keep to the left to make it as easy as possible to get past.
     
  6. Mylo

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    Had she attempted to Overtake me I would have let her :)


    As soon as we entered the next 60mph zone I then would have returned the complement.
     
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    Sorry, but I have as much disdain for people who do this as I do for the poeple who tailgate. Making the car behind you brake heavily and unnessecarily is what causes a lot of accidents, not to mention a lot of traffic jams!!! The dominoe effect of one car doing it, then the one behind, then the one behind etc etc....
     
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    I do this all the time! In first two years of driving so don't have much of a buffer in terms of points allowed so don't want to risk getting caught speeding unnecessarily...

    So I stick permenantly to the speed limit, no matter what corner. Really annoys me when I can't take a corner near my house at the 60mph limit because there's a tractor or something - I love that corner, it's a challenge to do it without dying!
     
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    I don't touch the brakes or the fog lights, far too big to be intimidated by anyone :D
     
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    I slow down when someone's climbing into my boot - but without using the brakes so they don't know I'm slowing, gives them a bigger shock than lights coming on!

    Then obviously speed up a little when an overtaking opportunity for them comes up. ;)

    Although more dangerous, meh, it's their fault so doesn't matter!
     
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    That breaks the rules of the game though.
     
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    Depends when I'm playing the game. ;) If someone annoys me enough, I'll stop playing and take my toys home...
     
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    I learned a lot taking my Institute of advanced motoring course and test some years ago.

    In highly built up areas I will not exceed 30 at all (good job given the amount of cameras round here).

    Past schools never more than 15 as young kids seems to want to behave like lemmings nowadays.

    However on a national speed limit/dual carriage way road I make 'Good Progress' depending on the conditions;)

    I also will happily exceed 100 (not by much though:cool:) on a motorway which is sparsely populated - enough to get me banned? Yes. Do I feel guilty? No.

    I never tailgate, always maintain lane discipline and slow down when conditions dictate it (I do not have in built human radar that allows me to drive at 90+ during heavy rain and spray).

    Does this make my general driving inappropriate? I'll let the flamers decide.
     
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    What really gets me is those drivers who do 50mph on an open,empty road and hold me up,then,when you reach a 30mph limit,they leave you for dead,still merrily doing 50mph.Have they only got one gear or what?
     
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    and i reckon that post would suit me as well , apart from the fact that i aint done my iam , i want to do it , just never seem to find the time :eek::thumbsup:
     
  16. Mylo

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    I like your style Jakal :smashin:

    I certainly didn't buy a car capable of doubling the speed limit to drive it slowly all the time;)


    As you eloquently put it: on a national speed I make 'Good Progress' depending on the conditions
     
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    I actually get more satisfaction from driving efficiently and safely, someone mentioned how cars now have better brakes and response etc, unfortunately the human body has not progressed at the same rate and still gets broken to pieces the same as it has done for millennium..
    Actually avoiding an accident surely must be more pleasing than smashing your car up,
    I did when i was younger have a lunatic streak, but after working a couple of years as a recovery driver, mainly police "incident"* work I have seen more than enough carnage to want to be involved. I am more than happy to let any throttle and brake merchant past, I inevitably catch them up and past them at traffic or other hold ups,However the wear on my vehicle and fuel consumption is kept to a minimum, I cover approximately 200 miles a day and everyday I see there is no benefit from driving fast or trying to beat the traffic,

    *The word incident is now used because only very rarely was it an accident
     
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    Sorry, don't agree with that at all. When I was learning to drive I did a mock test with my instructor the day before and he failed me for not increasing speed from a 30 to a 40 limit quick enough. I was always taught to drive at the speed limit when conditions allowed so, and quite bloody right too.

    Sounds pretty damn similar to how I drive and feel about people bad habits, not that I have any of my own of course! ;)


    And why not, I hate people who don't concentrate properly and think they have more right to get to their destination quicker than you.



    Again, sounds fine by me!
     
  19. ijd

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    You don`t have to agree.
    There is no rule in the book that says you have to drive at the maximum speed limit, courtesy dictates that we should, No examiner would fail for not driving at the limit,but at the same time they would not pass you if you could not show competence. There are many drivers who actually don¬t have the confidence to drive at speed anyway,and I am sure we have all come across these drivers at some time or other. The police would only stop you for going to slow to make sure you were all right,ie not intoxicated, they might advise you to speed up but there is no law to say you must.
     
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    Yeah, we've got a few 20 limits round here now too. ;)

    I've not done IAM, but have been on a course with a Police instructor, and making progress when its safe to do so was discussed. As was not taking the racing line around corners.:nono::D

    Its that phrase though, if conditions don't allow I'll happily do 20 in a 30. There are loads of small villages near where I live which although having a posted limit of 30, its just not safe to do so.

    The limit is a limit, and if people want to drive below it then it is their perogative. Annoying at times, yes, but that's life.

    Although rather more annoyingly there are more and more roads where the limits are being dropped for no apparent reason, especially some of the more 'scenic' ones.

    One of the worst ones near me is the road from Bawtry to Gainsborough, which used to be NSL, but with a short 30 section through a village. Its now been dropped to 50 (the village is still 30) and average speed cameras put along its length, including a couple of miles of dual carriageway. The road has good visibility, and the bends are flowing rather than tight/dangerous, but now most people drive down it paying more attention to their speed than the road.
     
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    It would be interesting to know what people would prefer.
    a couple of minutes being slowed down by a cautious driver.
    or spending half an hour stuck in a traffic jam caused by some pratt who thought he knew better and exceeded the speed limit causing a pile up, especially if it involves you,meaning taxi home,a couple of weeks in a small courtesy car will you wait to get your REPAIRED vehicle back.
    actually I have enough common sense to work that out, its a pity those who have not got enough sense to stick to the limit can`t
     
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    My stepson's girlfriend failed her driving test for driving at "23-25mph in a 30mph zone"
     
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    Then she should of appealed, unless of course she was not not driving competently.perhaps 5th was the wrong choice of gear at that speed!

    know one has ever caused an accident by driving to slowly,
    how many have been caused by driving to fast?
     
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    That pretty much sums up on how i aim to drive.

    am not saying i down sometimes break my own rules and sometimes drive badly, however i do try not to and generally consider myself a fairly safe driver.
     
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    sorry but that is rubbish!!!! I passed my test with 2 minor faults.

    the 1st of these was for doing 45 on a national speed limit road when i should have been going faster, the road was clear and it was perfect driving conditions (the other was panicking as i saw the examiner mark his pad and i knew what it was for.... in that incident of concentrating on him and not the road i approached a roundabout a little fast and ended up going round in the wrong gear :( ).

    he even asked me in the quiz at the end of the test, what is the national speed limit, and then asked me why i felt road conditions meant i should only have been doing 45mph when i was in one.

    it is also an offence i believe to drive dangerously slow on a motorway.

    ie a car doing 40 pulling onto a motorway IS dangerous and COULD cause an accident.

    yes excessive speed is dangerous, but imo some people are so worried that speed is the worsed driving offence of all, where as i know certain people who never break speed limits but their driving scares the pants out of me!!!.
     
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    if this is the case i am guilty of it just about everyday on the m25 as i sit in the traffic that builds up by drivers who are going to fast and have to brake sharply causing the knock on slow down effect it has on other drivers, many a day i have to pass slow moving vehicles on the motorway some get an escort and many don`t, particularly cranes which seem only to do 40mph, 45 mph at the most.
     
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    Plenty have been caused by driving too fast, it happens every single day unfortunately. However, it can't be said that people driving far too slow do not also contribute (if not directly cause) accidents on the road.

    To be fair though, there are far more people driving too fast on the road than too slow.
     
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    Absolutely. I lose count of the number of people I see using mobiles, and texting too. :mad: Nearly got sideswiped the other day by some young lady (Not what I thought at the time, but i don't want Mylo telling me off) texting coming up to one of the busiest parts of the Doncaster rush hour. Then she gives me grief.

    That's the problem with relying on speed cameras for traffic policing, they don't pick up on the muppets. Does anyone make a numpty camera yet?

    And another thing, why do they bother putting arrows on the lanes approaching roundabouts when everyone does what they want anyway. Do they not teach lane discipline anymore?

    And breathe. I could go on, this feels good. :D
     
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    I do not mean to be rude, but that is complete rubbish.

    Statistics have shown that very slow drivers who hold up traffic on A & B roads have directly caused accidents by bunching up traffic behind them.

    BTW your posts come across a little troll like. I apologise if I am wrong.
     
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    What statistics?
    dress it up how you like, if someone has an accident behind someone driving to slow, even if that vehicle hits directly the slow moving vehicle, the vehicle was traveling to fast for the conditions, even if it is a good day they have not left a safe distance to stop,
    Please can someone show me in the highway code where it quotes a minimum speed, just on instance where it mentions speeding up, because i can show you loads that relate to slowing down .
    Just because you/we/i think the limit is daft, cars are built better, we can handle it whatever, the limit is just that, you do not have to drive at the limit (no where in the highway code it says you must) and you can slow down whenever you like, it is not always legal to stop, but you can slow down wherever you like.

    I don`t make the rules, those who are trying to shoot the messenger wake up. No one should fail a test for driving to slow. if you do you should apeal.
    and those who slow down when pedestrians or animals are on or near the road should be commended, because it does not say you should in the highway code but common sense makes it good practice, be it by a school or someone walking to the emergency phone on the motorway.
    The same sense also lets us drive at the limit when it is safe to do so.I drive on the motorway at 80mph when it is safe to do so, but i will not do 30mph in a 30 limit if there are certain factors like children, i will slow down, and to those who think its a pain...TOUGH because it may be someone you know who steps into the road, and if i am going slow enough i will be able to stop avoiding injury or worse, and if you hit me up in the rear, you and your insurance WILL PAY because you were going to fast, end of
     

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