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Do they really make that much difference?

Discussion in 'Cables & Switches' started by bogie, Aug 11, 2005.

  1. bogie

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    I am just wondering if all these expensive cable for AV Toslink Phono Scart etc (@ £20 - £30) really make that much difference over reasonable quality items (£8 - £15) to the average user.

    Will my picture be twice as good - I don't think so
    Will my sound be twice as nice - I don't think so.

    I know going from the free Scart / cables or cheapos to something better you will see a difference, but not from mid to higher end in the average house.

    Flame if required but justify to me if you have tried "normal" mid range stuff to the QED's IXOS etc.

    (I have to connect Pioneer 530H, Denon AVR 2805, AE 3B's and Sagem 45S

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  2. Ian J

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    If you want general opinions this subject has probably been done to death and I would suggest that you have a good read of the existing threads before you ask people to "justify to you" all over again.
     
  3. Joe Fernand

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    Bogie

    Price is not an indicator of a cables ability to pass an electrical signal without degrading the signal.

    A well engineered cable need not be overly expensive and there are numerous threads on AVForums pointing you in the direction of very affordable cables from VanDamme, MarkGrant and DIY designs you'll never see mentioned in the UK HiFi and Home Theatre press.

    If your in discussions with a Retailer who makes a claim for Cable A over Cable B then simply ask the dealer to loan you a sample of each cable for you to try in your system to allow you to evaluate the benefits or otherwise - remember too a cable cant 'improve' a signal it can only 'break' a signal!

    You can evaluate a cable in the lab - seeing what it does with test signals gives you an indication what it will do with Video and Audio signals in your system or you can test a cable with your eyes and ears to see/hear if you hear/see any benefits.

    Enlightened Manufacturers and Retailers will offer you the chance to try out cables in your set up if your unsure what will work for you and what wont - here's one example; see http://www.bettercables.com

    Best regards

    Joe
     
  4. per-Sony-fied

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    OF course if you have already been subjected to the Hi-Fi salesman's blurb and pricing it may well turn out that you will think the same way about the cables once you hear/view them.

    FWIW I have a number of specialist cables and to my ears/eyes they do make a difference (Someone will now say they don't!!).

    However I also have a number of cheap (price) cables that really IMO make some of the specialist cables look ridiculous in terms of price/performance ratio (which is why someone will say they don't make a difference).

    Engineers will tell you that as long as you use the correct grade cable for the job, manufactured to the correct specification then one cable will be the same as another.

    At the end of the day if your skeptical the only REAL way to decide is to have a blind test that way your brain will have no bias to a particular make of cable.

    I could now continue on the justification of specialist cables, like connections, connectors, silver plating, rhodium plating, cryogenically treated cables, gold plating (looks nice but actually a worse connection! Just longer lasting) etc but I won't as this thread will get rather long and I'm sure many would disagree with what I have to say.
     
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    You are too big a spender for me, most I ever spent on cables was £7.50 for a 5m Belkin Pro VGA cable & £8 on a Componant to VGA cable. SCARTS £2.50, TOSlink £1.50, Phono £1 a meter is all I could ever afford.
     

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