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DMR ES10 - Now Availible

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by tomleeeee, Mar 18, 2005.

  1. tomleeeee

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    Just thought i'd let you know, the DMR ES10 is now availible to buy. We have them at our Shop @ Panasonic (Cheltenham) priced at £239.99.

    The 1 second start is pretty impressive, as nice as ever to use and they look alot nicer in real life as well :)
     
  2. mray

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    Thanks for the info!
    Do you see any improvement in XP and SP recording modes please?
     
  3. tomleeeee

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    I must admit, we've only just stuck it on display and haven't had a good go with it as yet.

    The LP now records in full SP resolution though, which may or may not be off interest!

    Just to clear any issues up with disc compatibility...

    It will record onto DVD -RAM, -R, -RW, +R
    And it will play back all of the above aswell as +RW and -RW (VR)
    AND JPEG photo CDs! (Finally!)
     
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    Is the EH50 available yet?
     
  5. DRAMBO

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    Why do you think Panasonic (UK) did not set the price at a similar level to the rest of Europe nearer the magic £199 at current exchange rates?
     
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    Interesting also that AVLand had it on their website for ages for pre-order at £199, the price has now jumped.
     
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    Hello DRAMBO.
    Could you do me a favour and let me know if there is any improvement in XP and SP modes please?
     
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    Hi mray,
    As soon as I receive my ES10, I shall do some picture quality tests and compare against my E50 & E55. I shall post the results when they're available.
    :thumbsup:
     
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    Thanks! You are a gentleman.
    I also have an E50 and E55.......I think the E50 is a better machine.
     
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    Thats interesting, why is that?
     
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    For anyone considering a personal import, you may be interested to know that this model has also just shown up on redcoon (http://es.redcoon.com) priced at €249 (approx £175) plus delivery.

    It may also be one one or more of the German sites, but I haven't checked yet.
     
  13. mray

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    In my case, the E50 seems to record a better image. Also, with the E55 you don't get the bitrate display and the remote isn't as good as the E50's.
    The build quality of the E50 is better too, in my opinion.
     
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    I think you need to be careful with imports because they may not be set up to be compatible with UK PAL TV UHF transmission standards. I think the frequency offset between video and audio signals for a given channel can be different for example.
     
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    I would certainly agree about the build quality. My E50 has been excellent and I recently bought an E55 as well. But the E55 was mechanically very noisy so I took it back. The second E55 was similar but also had a much more serious fault so I asked for and received a refund.

    One thing I read was that the E55 does not have the "Divide Program" function that the E50 does.

    It will be interesting to see how the ES10 is received.
     
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    I too, will be very interested to read opinions on the ES10.
    Especially by an owner who also has an E50/55
     
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    The E55 does have a "Divide Program". It's "Create Chapter" accessed via the sub menu or the "Create Chapter" button on the remote control.
    I agree that the E55 build quality (for example the slow & noisy disc tray motor) is not up to the E50 standard, but what do you expect from a machine that's priced £100 less?
     
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    I was just about to buy an E85 from Richer Sounds (£300) but have just seen this forum now talking about an ES10. What is the difference between the two and should I be looking at the ES10 rather than the E85?
     
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    The ES10 is the E55 replacement.

    For the E85 replacement, you need to look at the EH50. I haven't seen this available yet.
     
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    Well, it's available from Technik Direkt for the price of 479 euro.
     
  21. guylj

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    Yes the Disc Tray motor is noisier but I could live with that as it only lasts for a second or two. I found with both my E55s that once a DVD-RAM was inserted - whether Playing, Recording, or Idle, there was a continuous noise from the machine and the whole top vibrated in sympathy. The second E55 also put out severe interference across the whole UHF band which was the fault I couldn't tolerate at all and led to my returning it for a refund. By contrast the E50 is virtually silent. In fact I was an early E50 buyer and paid £450 and the E55 was sub £200 so it is a fair argument that you get what you pay for. However I would personally prefer that Panasonic kept their consistent quality up even if they were a little more expensive. I'm happy enough to give them another try with the ES10 but if that turns out to be a clunker I shall have to think again.
     
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    It would appear that the EH50 model will record on dvd-rw finally which has previously stopped me from buying a panny although I like there gear alot ! I have about 6 dvd players in my house and none can play dvd-ram discs !
     
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    The DVD Player in my sig will play RAM discs.
     
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    I received my ES10 today from digital point. The 1st thing I did was place it in a row next to the E50 & E55. It was like Cinderella and the ugly sisters. The Panasonic DMR-ES10 is one of the best looking DVD recorders on sale. It's also better looking than the new Sony RDR-GX210 (I've seen this recorder at the local Sony Centre).
    I then connected the ES10 to the TV & the setup was as easy as ever. I placed a DVD-RAM disc in the machine (the disc tray motor is quieter than the E55's).
    As soon as you press the record button immediately after pressing the power button, recording starts. 1 second quick start recording confirmed.

    Press programme/check button from power off & the timer recording page displays within 3 seconds.

    Press the play button from power off & playback begins in 8 seconds

    After placing a pre-recorded DVD-video disc in the Tray, press the "Open/close" button and playback begins in 12 seconds.

    All operations are quicker than the E55 & E50.

    I haven't been able to fully compare LP mode picture quality with the old models, but playback of pre-recorded DVD's seem to show more faithful colour reproduction.

    My ES10 was made/assembled in Slovakia. I will report later about the picture quality, but initial impressions are very favourable.

    :thumbsup:
     
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    Thanks for the iinitial report, DRAMBO.

    I'm sure we will all be very intereted in your findings on recQ.
    Meanwhile, if you want to sell your E50, let me know....:)
     
  26. mray

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    Thanks for the report.
    Good to know you seem happy with it so far.
    Will you comment on whether there's an improvement in SP and XP modes when you get time please? Also, does this model have a bit rate display like the E50?
    Thanks again.
     
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    Any chance of some close up photo's (of the ES10)

    From what i've seen the ES10 is missing the E55's front inputs?, I use these a lot.
    Which makes me want to know what connections it has at the back.
     
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    The ES10's front sockets, (AV3) S video/video/audio inputs are identical to the E55's and are under the pull down flap in the middle of the front panel.

    The back panel connections are the same for the ES10 & E55.
     
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    anyone comment on the quality of playback with regular DVDs as opposed to recordings?

    I want to have a single box to replace current video and DVD player. But I want good DVD playback. My LCD supports 576p over component, but can anyone confirm the ES10 does PAL progressive or NTSC progressive only? (reason I ask is the flash DIGA guide on the panasonic site specifically says NTSC progressive and makes no mention of PAL. Whereas the ES10 spec on the same site says PAL progressive and makes no mention of NTSC. Why do they do such things :rolleyes: )

    Another thing. can anyone confirm the ES10 has videoplus?
     
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    The quality of playback with pre-recorded DVDs is excellent with sharp images, natural hues and outstanding depth. The 12 bit D/A converter makes the ES10 a First class machine both for recordings & playback. The manual states that both PAL & NTSC progressive scan playback are available on the ES10.

    And as with all other Panasonic DVD recorders you can use videoplus to schedule programme recordings.
     

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