Discussion in 'Arcam Owners' Forum' started by fatboyslim, Nov 12, 2004.
im not sure which one i should go for! the 250 or 300 receiver?
Depends on whether you feel you need the extra power of the AVR300 and the ability to add on additional power amps at a later date.
Agree with Crusty...
The two are otherwise virtually identical.
When I got my AVR300, I didn't think I'd add external amps, but now I have done so. So choose the AVR250 carefully. You will not be able to add outboard amps like you can with the AVR300.
surely the amp is good enough not to add another external amp??
Yes, it is a very good amp and will perform very nicely on its own. I have a AVR300 and used it to power my speakers until recently. Now I have added external amps, not because they were needed, but becuase they are high performance and give me some improvements over the built-in amps.
The AVR250/300 are high quality all-in-one solutions that provide excellent performance. But that doesn't mean they aren't worth improving. That's why the AVR300 provides preamp outs, so that you can enhance performance if you want to.
The AVR250 provides performance similar to the 300 at lower cost. Part of the cost savings is the fact that preamp outs aren't provided. If you don't care about having them, the AVR250 is an excellent choice.
How does the 250 compare in Stereo?
I think John Dawson said the av300 was similar to an A80 in Stereo, is this about right?
I can't see the 250 performing as well as this for the price.
Has anyone demoed this for music?
If you can ask the question "which one should I go for?" then you know you want the avr300. A friend has just purchased avr300 after listening to a avr250 in stereo and 250 was superb. However my friend has the ultimate upgrade of a detached House! so went for the extra power of the AVR300 plus it has even more flexible video connections. If you are sure you wont need the extra stuff for some years then you wont be dissapointed with the 250. Try and find a dealer who has both.
That isnt the question I asked.
The avr300 is not on my list, I dont need pre-outs. (other than sub)
The question is how does the avr250 perform in stereo.
i.e. Is it equivalent to an A80 or an A65+ ?
Can you connect a sub without pre-outs? If so, how?
The 250 does have a pre out for the Sub, it doesn't have the other speaker pre outs.
Also to clear up any confusion there is no difference in the video between the AVR300 and the AVR250. The VFD display is slightly different because the AVR250 does not have the LED source indicators on the front so this is shown in the VFD instead.
The AVR250 is similar in performance to an A80, but as will all these things you need to listen to it because it is not exactly the same. It just has slightly less power than the AVR300 so won't go quite as loud, other than that it is very similar in sound character to the AVR300.
The 250 is, for an AV amp, stunning in stereo. Depending of course on what speakers you are using. Frankly, with many sub £1000 speakers (a pair) the 250 and 300 are almost identical in performance. If you're not running a seven channel system, and bi-amp the front left/right speakers, the 250 is an easy match for an A80. You would need a practiced ear to tell them apart.
A80 yes A90 No. Having 'a practiced ear' the A90 was much better than the AVR300 (less distortion and detail). Any owner thinking it isn't is just kidding themselves.
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