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Disney's The Mandalorian Season 1 Review & Comments

tonyk79

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I think you are like me, a fan of Star Wars but not a Star Wars fan (the Americans call these kind of fans "Stans"). Very few Star Wars "stans" like Rey and to be fair I can see why. With almost no training she can beat a trained ex-jedi with the dark side of the force in a light-sabre duel, perform jedi mind tricks and raise heavy rocks. That's nothing like Luke who because of his lack of patience and training ended up loosing his arm. She has basically helped to redefine the term "Mary Sue" she has become the archetype. It's gotten so bad that they are beginning to re-evaluate the Prequels lol.

I understand that's a popular misconception. James Bond is not being replaced, 007 is. It's a subtle but important distinction. I hear that this is still James Bond's movie
The same could be said for Luke, a few lessons from Obi Wan in the falcon on using a light sabre and he is also able to outfly Vader who is a master of the dark side of the force and blowup the death star so it’s no different. I think the problem with the Disney sequels is not having the same director for all three so they could carry the vision and know where the story is going over the three movies. The last Jedi was just a mess and they brought in characters and irrelevant plot points that don’t hold or build on the story from the Force Awakens. As a stand-alone movie, the last Jedi is ok, though I would cut the casino planet completely.

I know we have Have went a bit off the Mandolorian topic so I will leave the discussion on the other SW films/bond.
I would have liked to see more character development and a bigger plot/story arch in the mandolorian. We have had two characters introduced, the alien who helps rebuild the ship and Gina Carano and I can’t recall either ones name. We also got the revelation of baby Yoda but it hasn’t built on it and indeed in the last couple of episodes is basically a marketing advertisement.
 

Coulson

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The same could be said for Luke, a few lessons from Obi Wan in the falcon on using a light sabre and he is also able to outfly Vader who is a master of the dark side of the force and blowup the death star so it’s no different.
Oooh boy! lol

I'ma leave this here!
 

Coulson

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Oooh boy! lol

I'ma leave this here!
Ok I can't let that be. Rey is similar to Luke? Wow! I'm not a true fan but even I know that they are not even close. Rey is perfect. No flaws, no training, no mis-steps, no miss judgements, and she still has all her limbs.

Let's agree to completely and utterly disagree :)
 

tonyk79

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Oooh boy! lol

I'ma leave this here!
It’s a fair point and the counter side to the Rey argument. It is also a valid point in this current series, a certain something happens and who trained that person? I know that people quote the whole bullseye swamp rats quote from Luke, doesn’t allow for trained fighter pilot and defence systems-shooting at him, kind of in the same way I can tool up the a45 doesn’t mean I can keep pace with Lewis Hamilton on a circuit. Even Anakin in Phantom Menace, experience with Pod Racing but can suddenly fly a Fighter through a massive battle, land in the lead ship and save the day. Unfortunately the diehards can’t have it both ways, either all those events are questionable or none, can’t pick and choose.

I honestly believe that the last Jedi script was altered to allow for the current twitter overtones and we got that 20-30 mins of screen time that should have been used for Red’s backstory and more scenes from Mark Hamill, totally wasted. Only character I can think of with more a waste was Cersei in S8 Game of Thrones!
 

BrightonChris

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Watched the latest episode. Definitely the best one yet but still the whole thing is strangely inconsequential. The fact that the 20 second recap pretty much encompassed the last 3 episodes completely says all you need to know. It's like watching a long computer game cut scene. The writing is very low rent, and so is the acting frankly.

As an aside, after seeing hdtvtest explain it's not really hdr I watched a 1080 version for the first time. The picture was much better.
 

DarkDogZA

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I am surprised that I am still really enjoying it. Dislike that each episode is short and it still feels like an 80s self contained episodic format.
 

Rambo John J

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although this is the only Star Wars related thing I've liked, other than Rogue One, since ROTJ, it's still not actually that good IMHO. It suffers in the earlier episodes from the typical Star Wars clunky dialogue, but that's common across all the films anyway, so I can't really hold that against it. It's enjoyable enough, but only in the same way that I still enjoy watching Knightrider, The A Team or Buck Rogers, from time to time.
I actually quite like the short-ish episodes. Episode 4 did feel a bit like self contained budget saving filler that you wouldn't even notice if it wasn't there, but I get the impression that by the time season one finishes you could probably edit together a pretty good 2 hour movie out of it.
As far as kids/family TV shows go, I think it's pretty good so far. There's more potential there than they're capitalizing on so far, though, for me.

the most surprising thing about this show is that Disney weren't all set up ready to go with the baby whatever it is merch. That's probably cost them $millions. Someone's gonna lose their job over that.
 
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bjd

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The same could be said for Luke, a few lessons from Obi Wan in the falcon on using a light sabre and he is also able to outfly Vader who is a master of the dark side of the force and blowup the death star so it’s no different.
Not so sure about that.
Didn't Vader have a lock on Luke's X-Wing, only to be saved by Han's intervention?
Wasn’t Luke dying of hypothermia, having been captured by a Wampa on Hoth, only to be saved by Han again?
Didn't Luke fail in many aspects of his training with Yoda, ignore his advice, go to Bespin, lose a hand and have to be rescued again?
Didn't he miss the Rancor pit as he was trying to convince Jabba how powerful he was now that he was a Jedi?
So I can't agree that "the same could be said of Luke" at all. He is much more an untrained farm boy with lots of latent but as yet uncontrolled power, compared to Rey as almost the finished article from the get go.
Mind you, it's a long time since I last watched any of the OT, so I could be misremembering a few things.
 

tonyk79

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Not so sure about that.
Didn't Vader have a lock on Luke's X-Wing, only to be saved by Han's intervention?
Wasn’t Luke dying of hypothermia, having been captured by a Wampa on Hoth, only to be saved by Han again?
Didn't Luke fail in many aspects of his training with Yoda, ignore his advice, go to Bespin, lose a hand and have to be rescued again?
Didn't he miss the Rancor pit as he was trying to convince Jabba how powerful he was now that he was a Jedi?
So I can't agree that "the same could be said of Luke" at all. He is much more an untrained farm boy with lots of latent but as yet uncontrolled power, compared to Rey as almost the finished article from the get go.
Mind you, it's a long time since I last watched any of the OT, so I could be misremembering a few things.
Im referring to Episode 4 with Luke versus Rey in Episode 7. Let’s not forget that Chewie hit Kylo with his crossbow and we seen how powerful it was when Han used it to blow away the first order before they got captured. He was also bleeding and wounded during the fight. I honestly believe scenes where shot of Luke training her on the island but they cut the footage due to including the casino planet rubbish and adding extra run time. We did see her training in Last Jedi causing those creatures havoc and Luke showed her the meditation as well.

My point is , seemingly an untrained Luke, indeed even Anakin was able to perform heroics and if we use the argument that Rey cant perform them because she isn’t trained, then we have to be consistent with that viewpoint. We also know nothing about Rey, what is to say she wasn’t a full Jedi/Sith and has been mind-wiped or cut herself off from the force only to reconnect And we are on that journey? Kylo wants to recruit her so he will tell her lies much in the way Palpatine told them to Anakin.
 

bjd

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Well, mind-wiped Jedi...not a lot I can say about that.
 

tonyk79

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Well, mind-wiped Jedi...not a lot I can say about that.
Im not saying I agree with it, I don’t, it’s just an option that they could use. Is it far fetched, yes, if Palpatine is indeed back in Epsiode 9, is it really that far fetched? This is why on another post I said Last Jedi was a mess, what they done to Luke’s character was disgraceful. The movie was ok as a stand-alone entry but doesn’t fit in with the series or indeed the previous film.

Where do you stand on Anakins skill in Phantom menace or what another untrained character has done in the madalorian?
 

bjd

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I'm not quite sure what point you are arguing. If you are explaining Rey's skills by saying she already had them and has been mind-wiped, does that not imply that you accept the proposition that her powers were more complete than Luke's? Or do you believe he was equally as powerful (despite the examples I gave earlier) and was a mind-wiped Jedi too?
As to Anakin and the prequels, I'm afraid my interest dissipated when they started doing blood tests for midichlorians ☺
Edit: I have not watched any of this series yet, and since that is what this thread is about, perhaps we have strayed too far off topic.
 

Hampy1972

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"That's my line"

Episode five.
No Cara but another great ep...esp with the Dew back.
 

Desmo

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This week felt far better than last.
 

Hampy1972

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Solid season finale
"redemption"
IG -11 the hero for me in this one.

Over all 9/10.
Puts the current crop of Star Wars movies to shame.

Thank you Jon F for not destroying Star Wars basic strength, the story line...
 

richardb70

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Up to Ep 5. It's ... OK. If it didn't have Baby Yoda then I probably wouldn't be bothering.

It reminds me vaguely of Firefly although not as good. One positive though: ep 5 was largely set on
Tatooine
and they didn't go for a nostalgia-fest which JJ Abrams would undoubtedly have done. Gunfight at
Luke's old house
, anyone?
 

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