digital coaxial

BigJJ

Standard Member
hi can anyone recommend a decent digital coaxial cable that doesn't cost the earth? say no more than £30-40 for 3m.

oh and the same with a scart - 3m for about £30-£40

thanks
 

jameslindsey

Novice Member
OK, ready to take some arguing here but.........

Just use a spare supplied audio patch cable for digital co-axial. It's a digital signal as long as you've got a relaible connection, the quality of the cable isnt going to make a difference.
 

Badger0-0

Distinguished Member
I wouldn't argue with that :smashin:
It's just sometimes people get a placebo effect by spending loads of dough.
 

Mark Grant

Active Member
jameslindsey said:
OK, ready to take some arguing here but.........

Just use a spare supplied audio patch cable for digital co-axial. It's a digital signal as long as you've got a relaible connection, the quality of the cable isnt going to make a difference.
:D :D

Hello James,

Have you actually tried a wide range of coaxial cables for digital audio with a wide range of DVD/CD players to various DACS and AV amps etc ?


In theory all should be the same, but if you actually try some on decent AV kit you might just notice a difference.

Usually in Bass and high frequency detail.

The only way to decide is to try for yourself :)

Mark.
 

jameslindsey

Novice Member
Yep. As long as the cable is capable of carrying the frequency of signal, actual quality does not matter. It is either conveyed or not, it will not be conveyed at a degraded quality.

Analogue interconnects are a different matter however, as is speaker cable. Things like surface area and conductance as well as screening make a difference to the ability for the different frequencies to be carried effectively.
 

Mark Grant

Active Member
As I say, maybe best to try some on a wide range of decent kit :)

Not wanting to cause any arguments, just that theory people learn at College/ Uni etc is a bit different to actual experience.


Mark.
 

KingKrell

Novice Member
jameslindsey said:
Yep. As long as the cable is capable of carrying the frequency of signal, actual quality does not matter. It is either conveyed or not, it will not be conveyed at a degraded quality.
I can't agree at all. I have experienced significant differences in digital cables for PCM transport-dac transfer. It was very, very noticeable moving from an XV2 to a Chord Sig. I can't comment on bitstream however.

Listen to Mark - try for yourself. In the end it's up to you. The Belden cables are far superior to 'cheap' cables. You'd have to spend around £50 up to get better. A Stereovox XV2 is only slightly better than Belden Canare IMO and that costs £90 or so.
 

BigJJ

Standard Member
KingKrell said:
Listen to Mark - try for yourself. In the end it's up to you. The Belden cables are far superior to 'cheap' cables. You'd have to spend around £50 up to get better. A Stereovox XV2 is only slightly better than Belden Canare IMO and that costs £90 or so.
so for me and my budget of upto about £40, Belden is a good bet?
 

jameslindsey

Novice Member
We'll have to agree to disagree on expensive digital cables.

I use the same manufacturer "expensive" cable & connectors for the digital as analogue connection only because I am vain and like all the cables matching but detected no diference when switching back to an ordinary patch cable or using a borrowed dedicated co-ax lead (IXOS or audioquest, cant remember). This is contrary to what was experienced when comparing my analogue cables to patch, mid range and quite expensive leads, so my opinion is based not only on my technical knowledge but also backed up by personal experience & testing.

I have tested my setup with various options (got a lot of time on my hands at the mo:D) DVDa, SACD, DTS AC3 as well as vanilla CD. I can tell the difference when the DVD player does the analogue to digital decoding as compared to when the amp performs this task both units are by the same manufacturer and have the same chipset. I am also lucky to be able to switch between a Toslink and Co-axial cable and can not detect a difference there.

Hifi is a personal thing and people can only give advice based upon their opinion and experience.
Maybe I'm wrong and my set up isnt transparent enought to detect any minute differences. I'm happy with it at the moment but I am the first to admit that it was purchased with movies in mind as a priority and it is by no means reference.

Incase you're interested:

Pioneer DVD-757ai
Pioneer VSX-D2011
Rogers LS33, AB33, CS1, LS1
 

KingKrell

Novice Member
BigJJ said:
so for me and my budget of upto about £40, Belden is a good bet?
They are good, but sound a bit flat compared to more expensive cables. The Apogee Wyde Eye was the classic best of the cheapest, which was scaringly similar to a Belden cable. Belden compare well to Chord Prodac/VDH The First. Belden canare are very good value. I'd also be tempted to try an LV77S for coaxial use.
 

KingKrell

Novice Member
jameslindsey said:
Hifi is a personal thing and people can only give advice based upon their opinion and experience.
Very much so at the end of the day. If you are happy or can/can't hear something, then you have nothing to gain.
 

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