PHD and PHW are different colours. As to comparisons with the HDE, wrong panel to compare with, the HDE has the media box and cannot operate without it, with analogue TV tuner, and a bunch of scarts, HDMI etc. It's an 'out of the box' solution for consumers. The Panasonics are just monitors. You might need a video board to connect your sources,(though you might not) and you need to keep reading here for more info on what might suit you best, then go and see them. The pioneer is the coolest to look at, but it's not all that counts!