Diesel vs Petrol

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  1. danaldinho7

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    Ok, there's a few Threads on this but none seem to have a poll so thought I'd make one. Please write your reasons for your vote to get a debate going!

    I personally am not too sure on this one, petrols are typically more responsive and can be faster however fuel economy is what diesels have on petrols and in performance they are catching up...especially in Audi's but they have that horrible chugging noise.

    Recently drove a (old) 330d(I think!) whilst dads 650 was being serviced and the 330 was rubbish! Stalled the car in second gear because the power simply wasn't there when pulling out on a road from down hill.

    However, driving a 170bhp Audi 2.0TDI the car has some lag but after 2 seconds or so it is really something, for its size one of the best cars I've driven.

    In a 4x4 can't say the diesel bothered me driving a Touraeg and an X5 both, more so the X5, were nice and relaxed and civilised and generally what you'd expect from a 4x4. A same sized (3ltr) Petrol Range Rover didn't seem much better than the X5.



    Thats my experience anyway, I personally would rate petrols better than diesels despite the loss in mpg the loss in performance. But if I were to have a 4x4 as my everyday car, or have an Audi, I would in those circumstances go for a diesel.
     
  2. alexs2

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    A lot of the older diesels suffered from serious levels of lag,as well as being down on power.

    As you noticed with the Audi 2.0 170,there is certainly some lag on that engine(I've also tried one and found that)but the 3.0TDi has little if any,and a huge amount of torque.

    I've had some very fast petrol cars,as well as a few diesels now,and although there's little to compare fun-wise with the power and acceleration of an ex-race car,there's no way I'd go back to driving one.
    Once it's past first gear,the 3.0TDi can surprise some ostensibly quicker cars.
     
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    I'd like to vote for LPG!
     
  4. davethecobbler

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    my son owns a peugeot 306 dt which is the only diesel i have driven he has it set up well by someone called the dev doctor it goes very well for a 11 year old car not driven a moden one
     
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    Diesel just for economy. Although I am a bit of a speed fresk so petrol......no Diesel......arrgggghhhh. Diesel. !!!!
     
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    Diesel due to economy, and a much more relaxed driving style.
     
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    had a diesel Jeep and now got a petrol one - much prefer the petrol for performance etc - currently getting 17.5mpg which is good for a 4.7l V8:D


    the previous diesel was the VM 2.5td engine - good torque but those who have had them know the cylinder head problems with that particular engine:(
     
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    I've got both,diesel for the family car (Toyota T180-a great engine with 300lbft of torque and 40+ mpg) and petrol for me to have fun (S4 cab.).I did test drive the 3.0tdi cab. and it was fine until it came to a standstill with the roof down and started rattling,I decided that I couldn't live with that even if it does 10mpg more than the 4.2.Having said that,if I'd been buying a saloon I would have bought the diesel!So where do I vote for both?
     
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    Whilst I love the acceleration of petrol, diesel gets my vote. The roads around my house (near a very popular tunnel) are always jammed up so I have no need/opportunity to take off from the lights really quick. Therefore the economy of diesel and I agree with alexs2, once you are past first gear, the car really moves.
     
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    Another vote for diesel.

    Bought my first one two weeks ago (BMW 1 Series 118d M Sport 07 :D )

    The economy is superb (currently averaging 55mpg) and it can also move quickly.

    It takes a bit of getting used too in relation to being in a lower gear than you would be in a petrol engine, as I find most town driving only needs 4th gear, motorways are the only places I've managed to use 6th gear.

    Overall I would definatley buy another deisel.
     
  11. Ian J

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    Just got back from a fortnight in Spain where we hired a Vauxhall Meriva 1.7 turbo diesel for the duration. I was pleasantly surprised at how nippy the car was whilst the economy was a bonus.

    As my normal annual mileage is only about 7,000 I think that I'll probably stick with petrol
     
  12. SanPedro

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    Have had both diesel and petrol over the last 20 years of driving.

    I Loved my little MX5 - which would NOT have been the same with a diesel engine.

    But for anything other than sports cars I don't see why anybody goes for a petrol engine unless, as with IanJ, your mileage is low.

    Diesels are as as quiet as petrol models these days, more ecomical, the performance is stronger due to the amount of torque available, and so are more relaxing to drive.

    And the big 6 and 8 cylinder diesels even sound good these days. The Toerag V10 must be awesome.

    Now if only they could sort out the smelly issues of filling your car up with the vile stuff. Not enough garages have disposable gloves to hand, and you can guarantee your hands come away stinking of the stuff.

    But apart from that minor moan... it's diesel all the way for me
     
  13. alexs2

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    Did have an amusing exchange with a Cooper S the other day,whose driver obviously thought that dispatching a diesel estate shouldnt be a problem.....several futile attempts and several corners later he gave up...4 wheel drive,traction control and twice the torque :D

    Certainly not something I would have considered with the previous generation of diesels.
     
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    had the same thing the other day - Cooper S trying to climb into my boot:D


    sorry son - that V8 badge is not for show:rotfl:
     
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    If you'd opened the tailgate it would probably have fitted nicely.. :rotfl:
     
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    diesels, no spark plugs or leads to worry about,
    pretty robust, and the MPG, i can easily go for a week away in uk anywhere on a full tank,

    thats fill up, there, drive around site seeing and get back, just take my time on main m way runs and it sips the fuel
     
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    I'm not a big car fan generally, I cycle to work up to about 15 miles each way. Last year I got a bad back which is aggravated by cycling so the journeys have to be shorter now, hence the requirement for a second car.

    We've had a Skoda Fabia petrol for six years and its great so decided to buy another one. Got myself a Fabia vRS which is a 1.9tdi. Its a bloody revelation for me!

    The vRS is pretty fast and I've just finished my first tank of petrol (45l) and got just shy of 500 miles out of it, the petrol Fabia only gives us 250 miles or so.

    So, diesel it is!
     
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    Skoda - oh dear:rotfl:

    only joking (maybe) if it suits your needs - fine!!
     
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    Obviously somebody who hasn't visisted a Skoda dealers recently ;)

    Why would anyone put down a car that:

    Looks as smart as an Audi/VW
    Is as well made as Audi/VW
    Goes as well as an Audi/VW

    But doesn't have an Audi/VW badge on the front.


    Oh yes....... of course........ badge snobs :D :hiya:
     
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    lmao at the new racers on the roads the diesel middle aged racers lol ..

    i get these up my rear on a daily basis , on a daily basis they get to sniff on my petrol fumes.

    petrol all the way , way more fun :D
     
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    Hey! :nono:

    There are quite a few of us very satisfied Fabia VRS owners on here. You don't want to mess with the Fabia Mafia. :cool:

    I also see the Skoda Octavia came top of the recent survey as the most satisfying car to own. I'm eying up a Skoda Octavia VRS TD for my next car. 0-60 in 8.5 and 49.8mpg yes please! :thumbsup:
     
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    lol, I know, I know, but after owning one for six years you become resistant to the jokes.

    Having said that, my neighbour came over when I bought it to have a look. He asked me to pop the bonnet, he was gutted when he saw the same engine as his £15k Golf, made me chuckle!
     
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    Ditto

    The current Octavia is superbly made.

    Hey Squiffy to the do the VRS in estate version as well?
     
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    Probably getting a bit off-topic but....

    Been there and done it...eventually found running a 370bhp ex-race car on the road was just getting silly.

    ALS and the flame-spitting exhaust were both quite funny though,I have to admit. :D
     
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    Diesel for me, just now my 2.0 Focus is getting mid 30's to the gallon, similar diesel engine could give mid 40s and have more power and speed, no contest really.

    Liam
     
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    sorry but its about the two most common fuels right now, if all of a sudden everyone starts driving LPG's it woulda been an option

    they don't look as smart as vw's or audis but you're right about everything else dude



    so far I am suprised to see diesel is trouncing petrol by 9 votes...although most people seem to be talking about bigger cars which is about right considering you're relaxed.
     
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    Diesel for me too. Always had petrol hatchbacks and then got a Seat Leon Cupra TDI. It is the most economical and quickest car I've owned. It's also lower to tax (low CO2 figure) and insure than the petrol equivalents. I get 550-600 miles from a full tank. I love the torque and the low rev motorway cruising.

    I also love the big cloud of soot I can blow at the car behind me when accelerating hard! :devil:
     
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    whats the seat like? I might get one instead of a golf as my next car
     
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    yes i like the seat leon

    am currently looking at the seat leon 2.0 tdi fr (170bhp)

    should give me a better thrill than my 98bhp 1.6 focus

    also should save me money on petroel
     
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    I have the Seat Leon FR PD150 and previously had a 20VT Petrol Cupra.

    TBH there is not a great deal of difference between the two. Yes the Diesel is slightly Laggy, but this can be sorted if you keep the revs up slightly.
    The main difference is 25mpg vs 50 mpg on similar journeys plus 146 Co2 Vs 205 Co2 which makes a considerable difference on the company car tax :clap:

    My next car will be the seat leon 2.0 tdi fr (170bhp) without a doubt as i've done over 150,000 miles in my two Leon's without a glitch
     

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