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Hi,
I just upgraded by home theatre
I currently have a 13 year old pair of Creative GigaWorks T20 which IMO have been almost annoyingly acceptable for my desk for so long, but really...it's time to retire them.
I am considering two options: sell the Dali stuff and get a pair of nice desktop monitors, which would be more purpose built, compact, cost-effective and simple OR just add a compact stereo amp to power the Zensors...and that's when one begins slipping into the rabbit hole
. I don't mind buying used gear on eBay either.
I started looking at integrated units just for simplicity. I then realised it may be better to get something which has a USB DAC, since my source will be MacBook Pro with Tidal HiFi, so I want to take best advantage of the better quality source after switching from Spotify recently so presume I should use something with a DAC.
All it would need is: USB input for the MBP, 1 aux input for DJ deck I fool around with. Don't need phono stages, optical etc. Sub output.
DAC to support MQA: this is where my knowledge is lacking but I've read the Master quality tracks can have high bitrate up to 24bit 192kHz (and perhaps I should assume that might increase in a few years)
NAD 3045 seems nice but at around £500 I think is at the top end of what I think I should spend right now.
There are various cheap units on amazon etc or something a little less like this TEAC
Teac AI-301DA (B) Full Amplifier
Seen this PeachTree Audio Decco 2 on eBay, but it's a 10 year old item at this point. dunno ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Second Option - separates
Then there is the option of a separate DAC and buying a cheaper stereo amp for now with the ability to change the amp to suit my needs.
Drawbacks being that choosing a stereo amp allows for so much choice it's overwhelming; at least the compact, integrated units are few in choice. Also it will presumably start making a mess on my desk area, maybe a stupid concern so I'm willing to hear some suggestions for compact stereo amp to pair with a separate DAC, including used gear.
The final issue I'm worried about with either amp solution above is that the Dali Zensor 1's may inherently not be suited to near field use. There is a whole thread on this elsewhere, suffice it to say it was relatively inconclusive so I have my reservations, but presumably need to bite the bullet and listen for myself or go to option 3....
Powered Monitors/Speakers
Finally there's the option to sell off the speakers and get something like the below choices. My issue is that I'm not sure the onboard DACs of some are capable of handling the HiRes Tidal tracks. Would I even notice if I'm only getting 16 bit 44.1kHz out of them, which is CD quality anyway?
I suppose to get what you pay for, but the Jamo's for instance don't have a DAC spec listed, and seem poor value when they can be had on sale for $149 in the US.
I've heard good things about AudioEngine but I'm also not sure if it's just hype, there are similar looking models for less to be had by Kanto, Steljes etc, never heard of them.
Thanks in advance for any advice, I need to get to work for now!
I just upgraded by home theatre
- front speakers from Dali Zensor 1 to Zensor 3
- subwoofer from Dali Fazon 1 to Dali E9F
I currently have a 13 year old pair of Creative GigaWorks T20 which IMO have been almost annoyingly acceptable for my desk for so long, but really...it's time to retire them.
I am considering two options: sell the Dali stuff and get a pair of nice desktop monitors, which would be more purpose built, compact, cost-effective and simple OR just add a compact stereo amp to power the Zensors...and that's when one begins slipping into the rabbit hole

I started looking at integrated units just for simplicity. I then realised it may be better to get something which has a USB DAC, since my source will be MacBook Pro with Tidal HiFi, so I want to take best advantage of the better quality source after switching from Spotify recently so presume I should use something with a DAC.
All it would need is: USB input for the MBP, 1 aux input for DJ deck I fool around with. Don't need phono stages, optical etc. Sub output.
DAC to support MQA: this is where my knowledge is lacking but I've read the Master quality tracks can have high bitrate up to 24bit 192kHz (and perhaps I should assume that might increase in a few years)
NAD 3045 seems nice but at around £500 I think is at the top end of what I think I should spend right now.
There are various cheap units on amazon etc or something a little less like this TEAC

Teac AI-301DA (B) Full Amplifier
Seen this PeachTree Audio Decco 2 on eBay, but it's a 10 year old item at this point. dunno ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Second Option - separates
Then there is the option of a separate DAC and buying a cheaper stereo amp for now with the ability to change the amp to suit my needs.
Drawbacks being that choosing a stereo amp allows for so much choice it's overwhelming; at least the compact, integrated units are few in choice. Also it will presumably start making a mess on my desk area, maybe a stupid concern so I'm willing to hear some suggestions for compact stereo amp to pair with a separate DAC, including used gear.
The final issue I'm worried about with either amp solution above is that the Dali Zensor 1's may inherently not be suited to near field use. There is a whole thread on this elsewhere, suffice it to say it was relatively inconclusive so I have my reservations, but presumably need to bite the bullet and listen for myself or go to option 3....
Powered Monitors/Speakers
Finally there's the option to sell off the speakers and get something like the below choices. My issue is that I'm not sure the onboard DACs of some are capable of handling the HiRes Tidal tracks. Would I even notice if I'm only getting 16 bit 44.1kHz out of them, which is CD quality anyway?
I suppose to get what you pay for, but the Jamo's for instance don't have a DAC spec listed, and seem poor value when they can be had on sale for $149 in the US.
I've heard good things about AudioEngine but I'm also not sure if it's just hype, there are similar looking models for less to be had by Kanto, Steljes etc, never heard of them.
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Jamo S801 PM Powered Monitor Speakers (White)
£256.67 - cheap, DAC unknown quantity, never heard of them before. Crutchfield is giving them away... -
Audioengine A2+ Wireless 60W Powered Desktop Speakers | Built-in 24Bit DAC & Amplifier
seems to fit the bill, but at this price I wonder if a NAD 3045 and Zensor will blow this away -
Audioengine HD6 150W Wireless Powered Bookshelf Speakers | Built-in USB 24-Bit DAC - Says built in USB but looking closer I don't think it has
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Audioengine A5+ 150W Wireless Bookshelf Speakers | Built-in Analog Amplifier | aptX HD… - no DAC it seems?
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Dali Zensor 1AX Speakers (White) - probably a bad idea, no USB.
Thanks in advance for any advice, I need to get to work for now!