I wonder if any of the learned members would advise whether the new arcam bd player is worth changing to from my denon bdp2010, or would it be changing for that old reason that you just want something new!
I see Arcam and players like it aiming for a different market to the Sony 370, for different reasons, non of which are for picture quality reasons.
But you are missing my point totally. I have made no claim re the performance of this reference design or the other one mentioned. My point is people should listen to it themselves and make there own mind up. What is wrong with that?
In fact I remember the time when I was pretty much the lone voice on this forum telling people there ain't much difference in Blu ray players playing Blu ray films at [email protected] bitstreaming on modern players, now look where we are. If people followed that advice however we would all have Sony 370s or similar. The increase in price people want and do spend on the players are for all the other things that are lumped on players to make manufacturers more money and as such everyone will be different and have different priorities.
I certaily have never seen the Arcam debates about quality of Blu ray films, which is why I haven't commented on this at all. I see Arcam and players like it aiming for a different market to the Sony 370, for different reasons, non of which are for picture quality reasons.
I suspect people are swayed by brand and may have limited experience of other products or the knowledge to properly asses/understand the difference.
The Arcam is no better or worse than many Blu-ray products. If cosmetic continuity with other Arcam product is important then it may be worth the premium for some.
The danger is when "brand name" alone becomes a factor in performance i.e. a "cheaper" brand that tweaks the image often generates a different reaction to a "premium" brand that applies the same tweaks. I've seen and heard the Arcam but I'm looking forward to a credible, dispassionate and detailed review.
but that is not how you point is coming across to me. It seems to me that no matter what cost this Arcam would be rolled out at, you'd try to defend it by using that cavaet, ie try, don't listen to all the rubbish spouted by others. So people cannot question a BDP and its cost/perofrmance unless they try it. (think Goldmumd/Lexicon here and their base player roots).