Try Hyperfi @ £1299I want an X7200WA but I can’t find any in stock (in black). Even happy to go ex display.
Nothing to do with my speakers. Audyssey is just crap. Anthem room correction is 100 times better.You have to hard/bright sounding speakers.
Did you try the Audyssey app?Nothing to do with my speakers. Audyssey is just crap. Anthem room correction is 100 times better.
Nothing to do with my speakers. Audyssey is just crap. Anthem room correction is 100 times better.
+1Don't agree. PL100 is known to sound quite bright.
I had the Denon 7200 for 2 years with the platinum speakers and that was fine. I think they have tuned the 8500H very different to the 7200. ie the vocals sound bright.+1
Try Dynaudio for a more neutral sound... I couldn't get MA to work well in my previous pairing with the 7200 too..
Everything sounds fine on the denon, apart from the voices.
I had the Denon 7200 for 2 years with the platinum speakers and that was fine. I think they have tuned the 8500H very different to the 7200. ie the vocals sound bright.
The Anthem 710 and 720 sound totally different. The 720 is warmer sounding. I never liked the 710 to bright for me just like the new denon.I do like ARC but Anthem amps are voiced brighter again than Denon. Plus in this country aren't worth the outlay. Maybe the 7200 was using midrange comp and the 8500 isn't? The Audyssey app makes the EQ system a very nice one indeed. Having had the Anthem 710 and a Denon 6300 I'd choose the Denon over the Anthem for MA speakers. Especially the Platinum's as they are quite bright speakers - I know when I got some P100's at an amazing price from Tyson I had to send them back as they were very up front. This on their dedicated stands, too.
I had it for 12 days. And yesThe voices in your head? When you switch the Denon off, do you still hear the voices? Do you think a week is enough to judge?
The Anthem 710 and 720 sound totally different. The 720 is warmer sounding. I never liked the 710 to bright for me just like the new denon.
If the Anthem does the trick for you, then great. The 8500 has many features the Anthem does not have and those features led me to buy the 8500. I will enjoy my 13.1 with Atmos and look forward to the Auro upgrade.
I didn't realise that the app could do all that. I'm getting my dealer to check it out for me. ThanksAudyssey MultEQ Editor App:
This app will allow you to:
If the 8500 was too bright you could use the app to solve your "objection". In the Surround Parameter section in the receiver; you could have enabled "Cinema EQ".
- View the speaker detection results, to check correct installation.
- View before and after results of the Audyssey calibration, making it easy to identify room problems.
- Edit the Audyssey target curve for each channel pair to suit your tastes.
- Adjust the EQ frequency adjustment range for each channel pair.
- Switch between 2 high frequency rolloff target curves.
- Enable/Disable midrange compensation to make the vocal region brighter or smoother.
- Save and load calibration results.
If the Anthem does the trick for you, then great. The 8500 has many features the Anthem does not have and those features led me to buy the 8500. I will enjoy my 13.1 with Atmos and look forward to the Auro upgrade.
The Anthem will be better.
Absolutely. Anthem plays in a different league, for both sound quality and room correction system.
Considering how much amplifiers collapse in power just going to 7 channels 13 from one box, while impressive, is impractical. Even with the 8500 I'd still run a power amp for the main 3 speakers.
I think you will like the Anthem. The Denon 8500 is still a very good amp it's just I didn't like Audyssey. But I did not use the new app but I will rectify that very shortly. And I did like other things on the denon that's not on the Anthem.So as a matter of equality I will be looking at an Anthem 720 in my living room as a demo. I can't afford one, but I thought that I'd put a 720 as opposed to a 710 through its paces. Given that I've had a 6300, arcam 550 and now the Anthem it'll be interesting to see if I feel the Anthem is indeed bloated in price or not.
I guess many folks post on here as gospel and haven't heard the amp in question (like me with the 720) so let's put that to rights over the weekend
Russell
There isn't one? No need being testy with me, especially seeing as a few posts ago I was agreeing with you that the Denon offers better value and I still do. I'm simply trying to corroborate the fundamental issue of amplifier and room eq quality given that I dissed a model based on a prior marque. Which isn't up to my normal post quality.
You know for a long while I didn't post on this forum I'm beginning to remember why.