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Denon AVC A11SR - Audio delay?

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by OnTheFly, Apr 5, 2003.

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  1. OnTheFly

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    Does anyone know if the aforementioned Amp has the audio delay feature? There's no mention of it on the Denon website.:smashin:
     
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    Sorry, it does'nt.
    I have it and i wish it had audio delay.
    When i watch DVD's on my PJ with my p-scan DVD-player there is often 1 second diff between audio and video.:(
     
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    Not much help but from recollection it's due on the revised US version 4802R.
     
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    Thanks for replying.

    Magking, do you have delay problems on many DVD's. I've been in to a dealer today and he reckons there should be no problem. Obviously there are problems because you have said so.
     
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    I would'nt say it's a big problem, but if you look you'll see the delay on almost all movies.
    But it varys during a DVD, if you pause or stop it'll be good for a while, but this also happens without pause or stops.
    My 10m video cables and a component to VGA converter might add to the problem i've got.

    My DVD-player is a Denon DVD3800 and it does'nt have audio delay either, but there is DVD players who has this feature. It even is boxes you can put between the DVD-player and the amp to delay the signal.

    Great amp though, and now it's going to be discounted you could do some great bargains.
     
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    I have the AVC A11SR - got it a few days ago... I also have the PANNY 42" plasma and I haven't had any lip sync problems (except for some of the really crappy NTL channels that I don't watch). All my channels are provided via NTL and I am using RGB input to the screen

    Cheers

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    Do you use a P-scan DVD-player?
    Thats why i have lipsynch problems, no problems with TV, VCR etc.
     
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    1 second, are you sure? The majority of prog scan/de-interlacer circuits only introduce 50-80 milliseconds video delay. Most amps that have the master delay feature offer in the region of 0-200 milliseconds delay. With my setup, I use about 50 milliseconds but this will vary with different de-interlacers.
     
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    I've not measured it, but you can see it quite easy. Exactly how many milliseconds i dont know.
    But other times it's almoast nothing, thats the real problem.
    How can delay sort the problem when the lipsync is'nt the same all the time?
     
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    I think that some discs can have lipsynch problems. Up to about 30 miliseconds and you probably won't notice it, but if your player is introducing say 50 milliseconds then that's a total of 80ms which would be quite noticable to most people. If you had 50ms delay set on your amp then you would only have 30ms total.

    On most amps that have this feature, the delay is adjustable so you can tweak the setting if you have a problem disc. I find that 50ms is ok for the vast majority of my discs, but I do have to tweak the setting to about 80 or 90ms for some discs. Hope this helps.
     
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    Thanks for the comments, gentlemen.

    The reason I have targetted the 11SR is that it's incredible value right now. My biggest fear is regretting my purchase.
     
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    Hey Magking. I was reading the manual for the 11sr amp. Page 33 (in the notes section ast bottom of page) talks about the audio delay time for DSP modes!
     
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    If you look at page 34 on the left it says:
    "DELAY TIME
    In the matrix mode only, the delay time can be set within the range of 0 to 300 ms"
    On the right you see a table that shows the same.

    To bad I cant do it in the other modes.
    Makes me wonder if it would be possible to add this feature with a software upgrade?
     

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