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denon 3802

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by kamarjelin, Aug 16, 2002.

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  1. kamarjelin

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    Does anyone know if Wharfedale Diamond speakers are any good to use with the Denon AVR3802 as i am thinking of buying the Diamond cinema 8 Series when i buy the denon 3802. I am putting this system in a room 11'6'' x 14', is this type of system ok for this size room?
     
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    The Wharfedale Diamond series are good speakers, but you would be wasting the capabilities of the 3802. The AVR3802 is capable of driving even the very best speakers. I would recommend spending at least £1,600 on 5 or 7 speakers. I have my 3802 connected to Mission speakers (775e fronts, 77c1 centre, 771e x 4 rears) and they sound absolutely fantastic. I found these online for less than £750 (RRP well over £1,700). If your budget cannot stretch to include better speakers, and you would prefer the Wharfedale speakers, a better option may be the Denon 1802 or 2802.
     
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    Many thanks for the info. I will rethink my setup and poss use the 2802.:)
     
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    I´d say stick with the 3802. Get the best you can afford and the 3802 will drive the Wharfedales perfectly well. There are other speaker packages out there from the likes of Kef, M&K etc but depends on what budget you have to spend. Also worth considering the 2nd hand market as you can pick up some decent higher end speakers at reduced prices.
     
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    I'm not sure I agree with this - the Wharfedale Diamonds may not be the best speakers on the planet, but they are more than good enough to partner a 3802 to good effect. There are plenty of more expensive speakers than these which aren't as good.

    While the 3802 is a good product for the money, I think higenbs1 may be overstating it's abilities a bit. :)

    I suppose you'd really need to go and have a listen for yourself, but my opinion is that Diamonds coupled with a 3802 would make a very nice upper budget/low mid range system, and would leave you with more cash to put towards a decent subwoofer (while some of the budget units are OK, there's much better available).
    The 2802 is an alternative, but it does lose a few features to it's bigger brother, notably the 7th amp channel.
    Speaking of that, if I were you, I'd order a second set of 8.1s (or whatever speakers you decide on) for the surround back channels - you may think you don't need them now, but you probably will at some point (and it would be a bit annoying to find out they've been discontinued or modified into a mk2 version).

    IMO, the last thing you should do is buy speakers based purely on the manufacturers MSRP - "These are expensive, so they must be good" - they may be, but equally there's a fair bit of overpriced run-of-mill stuff out there as well.
    Also, some of the more exotic speakers are quite demanding in terms of their partner amp - couple them with a basic amp (in terms of power amplification) such as a midrange AV amp and they may sound very ordinary or even downright poor.
    Many AV amps can sound a bit coarse, especially in stereo, so if I were you I'd be wary of partnering them with bright sounding speakers - unless you happen to like that sound of course.
    It can sound a bit clearer and more sparkling at first listen, but it may soon start to grate and get on your nerves.

    In the end though, whatever you decide, make sure it sounds good to you, and don't rely solely on opinions you read on here (inc mine).
     
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    Id go for the 3802 (in fact I did :D ).

    You're more likely to kick yourself for missing features on a 1/2-802 than you are to want to tweak the sound from your speakers.

    If you're really not sure about amp/speaker combos then go to a specialist store and get them to let you listen to them. If they are worth their salt they will, and also haggle with them. RRP is for mugs, you wont get internet prices but you should be able to EASILY get 10% off and the extra is worth paying for the ability to listen & test the equipment along with the stores time.

    For refference I use KEF KHT2005 Eggs with mine along with a REL Strata III sub. (I soon got cheesed off with the Kef SUB).

    Regards
     
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    I was a little sceptical at posing a question in this forum, but thanks to everyone for positve replies.

    Cheers .
     
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    No probs.

    Be You'll find the vast majority of people here are helpful, friendly and have a sick sense of humour... :rolleyes:

    Good luck with your testing and let us know how you get on.

    We all start somewhere.

    Regards
     

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