Denon 3802 (again ?)

[Trig]

Dear All,

Just a quickie regarding the 3802. Manual of guidance not too helpful, so out to you.

Am I correct in assuming that when I listen to music in the Direct mode the signal that is being amplified is unfettered by any processing ?
The reason I ask is when I listen to music for example I seem to get the full bass sound from my fronts. When I select any other mode including stereo the bass noticeably drops off. No other settings have been changed in the other modes, levels etc. (I can actually see the cone moving less for a given volume.) This only happens when the fronts are selected as small in the setup. If they are selected as large there seems to be no difference in the bass they produce whatever mode is used.

Thanks

Dave

 

[Nobber22]

I don't have the Denon, but can you select sub on/off when you go into the menus on the "different modes"? Perhaps those modes enable the sub (are you using one in your setup?) by default and you have to disable it if you don't have a sub at all. Then ALL sound in ALL modes will go to the fronts will full bass engaged. If you have no sub, set fronts to large in all modes (if that is possible on the 3802)

Sorry if you have already checked this.......

 

[bob007]

Originally posted by Trig
Dear All,



Am I correct in assuming that when I listen to music in the Direct mode the signal that is being amplified is unfettered by any processing ?
The reason I ask is when I listen to music for example I seem to get the full bass sound from my fronts.

Correct - When Direct is selected no processing is used.

The Front L/R speakers default to large when Direct is selected, even though you have set them to small in the set up menu.

 

[Fibretear]

I have had an AV1801 for some time, I know that in the instructions on the denon faq (from the website) it says that the fonts should always be set to large even if you use a sub. setting to small does not play anything below 80Hz and is instead sent to the sub.

If you have no sub, setting speaker to small means you a not getting all the bass - set em to large for the fronts - surround speakers/center set to small automatically route there bass to the fronts in this config.

If you have a sub, on my amp you still have to set the fronts to large and then in the setup menu choose either NORM or +MAIN which controls how the bass is delt with.

G

 

[bob007]

Originally posted by gchaplin
I have had an AV1801 for some time, I know that in the instructions on the denon faq (from the website) it says that the fonts should always be set to large even if you use a sub. setting to small does not play anything below 80Hz and is instead sent to the sub. G

That's funny, my manual says "Using the small setting for all five mains speakers and sub on will yield the best reults". Tend to agree with that as well. If your speakers can't reproduce bass say down to 25Hz set to small. You will find the speakers work better when just having to cope with the 80Hz and above, this was just suggested to a member who had speakers set to large, he thrilled with the results.

Originally posted by gchaplin

If you have no sub, setting speaker to small means you a not getting all the bass - set em to large for the fronts - surround speakers/center set to small automatically route there bass to the fronts in this config.
G

You can't select small for the L/R fronts if you have no sub, you can but as soon as you select No Sub the fronts default back to large.

Originally posted by gchaplin

If you have a sub, on my amp you still have to set the fronts to large and then in the setup menu choose either NORM or +MAIN which controls how the bass is delt with.

G

On the 3802 if you select large for the fronts you can select LFE/LFE + Mains. If you select speakers to small you do not get this option.

 

[Trig]

Bob and all, thanks for that.

I have sub connected and the fronts set to small. As the good book says that seems to offer the best sound.

However for some music the sub seemed a little too much without constantly altering the settings. I was using the Direct mode with the sub selected to off. Was a little confused when the bass response from the fronts changed so much when selecting between stereo and direct.

Dave