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Denon 2910 Vs Denon 3910

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by dr no, Sep 13, 2004.

  1. dr no

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    I have been waiting to upgrade my DVD player for a while.

    I have been specifically waiting for a HDMI version of the Denon 2900. This appears to be finally happening. But people talk about a 3910 and a 2910. Anymore info from anyone as I seem not to be able find any info re: 2910. Whether it actually exists or not or is it a HDMI version of the 2900?

    Anyone with more info?
     
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    There has been quite a bit of talk about these players on here of late. The 2910 is the replacement for the 2200 and the 3910 is the replacement for the 2900 - although from the model numbers that isn't apparent - they retail at £599 and £899. From what has been said on various forums, the 3910 is pretty much a revised A11 in a 2900 chassis, so it may be that the 2910 is an updated 2900 in the 2200 chassis, both have DVI and HDMI.

    Have a look at these llinks...

    2910

    3910

    From Denon Japan

    More 3910 pics

    First impressions

    Denon DVD comparrison from CEDIA
     
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    The main difference between the 3910 and 2910 is the Denon-link (Denon's i-link).
     
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    I think the 3910 and 2910 will probably share the same video board, the differences being audio - mainly that the 2910 hasn't got denon link and ilink.
     
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    What about sound quality for Music? And watching DVDs through progressive scan, would there be any visable or listenable difference?

    I don't have Denon Link or anything, so I don't know if it's worth spending that extra amount.
     
  6. dr no

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    Miniholic,

    My suspicion as to their authenticity was due to the 'pictures' of them displayed in various places. They are the same ones and look doctored.

    When are these machines coming out?
    I am ready to buy one now!

    Any ideas the best prices?
     
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    They were both shown at CEDIA USA last week. Hold on and I'll upload some pics...no idea on UK prcing.

    Gordon
     
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    3910 has been on sale in the USA for a week or so, and will be out here anytime from next week to next month depending on who you talk to :confused:

    Retail for the 3910 is £899, but it is being advertised online for £799 if you shop around, only seen the 2910 advertised for the list price so far (£599).

    I'm now torn between waiting for one of the new machines, or going for a 2900 for £499.
     
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    Wow!
    I was looking at the new Marantz 9500, but now i think ill go for the Denons instead!

    Still the Video D/A converter is better on the marantz!
    (9500 14bit 216mhz vs 3910 12bit 216mhz)

    Would this make a huge difference?

    As for the diference between the 2910 and 3910, is there ANY difference in video quality?

    Audio wise im not that picky, As long as we get DD and DTS im happy!

    The best thing about these players has to be the HDMI AND DVi-D !!!!!

    Even the Marantz doesnt have both!!!

    Ive seen the 2910 in japan for 300 quid and the 3910 for about 500. If there is no difference in the video quality ill go for the 2910!!

    Advice plz!
     
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    a 3910 for £500

    That makes me weep
     
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    DtoA specs would only be useful for analogue output. I'd suspect if you are using the HDMI output it's irrelevant.

    Gordon
     
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    I didnt realise that the D/A converter and DVi/HDMI were diferent!

    Im still unclear as to the difference in quality though!

    If I were to compare a DVD using DVI then using Component, which would look better?

    I realise that HDMi can use higher resolutions like 720p and 1080i, but compnent can do this too!

    I conected my Xbox to my plasma via component and played a game at 1080i and the resolution and picture quality was stunning!

    Also in japan we watch HDTV at 1080i also through component and again amzing picture.

    How would this compare to using HDMI/DVi?

    As for the price tag, weep coz its cheap or expensive??
     
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    DVD's themselves are limited to 8bit standard definition. (we are not including WMV discs or other optical disc formats)

    1080i out of a DVD player, via any means, would require upscaling of the DVD's native resolution. This is NOT the same as a native 1080i signal such as you would get on an HD broadcast in your country.

    Whether a digital video output like HDMI/DVI is going to look better than an analogue output signal is largely dependant on the processing in the DVD player and also that in the display. The only way to find out is to try both and see what happens.

    Gordon
     
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    Well I'm convinced!
    Someone let us know when a dealer is ACTUALLY selling them and I'm there.
     
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    There are several japanese dealers here that sell them fairly cheap :

    http://kakaku.com/sku/price/202510.htm

    I know its in japanese, but u can see the model number and price in yen. 200yen to the pound!

    This site shows the prices for all electronic equipment sold in japan at the cheapest prices in Japan!

    DVDs, amps, LCDs, Plasmas and much more. SOME will do international shipping. Also these DVD players will only be region 2 NTSC, they wont play Region 2 pal disks so you would have to multy regionise them. Other stuff like amps and TVs wouldnt matter.
     
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    There is a possibility that the player will work with PAL discs because it's already region 2, it's just gotta support PAL.
     
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    No, it doesnt. In japan nobody uses PAL so most DVD players are NTSC. There may be a DVD players that supports PAL but I havent seen it.

    Remember that PAL is a British system not used in other countries outside of EU.

    Japan uses the same power system and TV system as the US.

    Also, Ive heard rumours about a 5910??is this true? and when is it due out Will it be better than the 3910 and what will be better?
     
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    The other thread about the new Denon 3910 suggests that it has a problem with macro blocking, would that mean that both of these would suffer from it ?
     
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    Yeah! I heard that the reason a 5910 is coming is to fix the macro blocking issue!? Anyone know about this?
     
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    FYI

    Both the 2910 and 3910 received 5 star reviews in the latest What Hi-Fi issue (November).

    Steve
     
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    seen the 2910 for £529.95! :D
     
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    AV-land say they will have the 2910 at the end of the month (though in short supply) , but the 3910 is now in stock.
     
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    Peter Tyson (www.petertyson.co.uk) have the 3910s in stock now for £799...ordered mine today and will arrive on Monday.

    The 5910s are not going to be around until early next year I've heard.

    Cheers, Lee
     
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    'Both the 2910 and 3910 received 5 star reviews in the latest What Hi-Fi issue (November).'

    Oh well , they must be good then.......
     
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    I read an article saying the uk version of 3910 has up scaling to 1080i in PAL format, will it also do up scaling in NTSC?
     
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    "Oh well , they must be good then......."

    It was just a FYI for anyone who was interested :confused:
     
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    I think he was just trying to make a point, What Hi-Fi is the Daily Star of the Hi-Fi magazine world and aint worth the paper it's written on.
     
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    Surprised people are ordering these until they know how "glitchy" they are. Denons, as we all know, a notorious for this. Still the 3910 looks mighty fine though:)
     

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