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Denon 2805 Vs Marantz SR7500

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by Deanooo, Aug 31, 2005.

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  1. Deanooo

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    I have narrowed down my decision to either of the above AMP's as a replacement for my current dated Denon.

    Have any of you guys got any feedback of either as any is welcome.

    On another note I was quite interested in the Pioneer 2014s until in noticed it didn't have any Lip-Sync control???

    Is this correct as if it did it would be a definate bargain for the amount it sells for?
     
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    Two great options

    Advantage to the Marantz in music, maybe even against the 3805...
     
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    In my experience the Marantz is better at music but Denon probably has it for movies so I guess it depends on your piorities

    Of cause the '06 range of denons are about to be released so if you decide to go for denon it is probably worth holding off either until the 06 come down in price or at least until they are released and so stores start selling off the 05 ranges to make room
     
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    A few members have stated same abilities for movies in 7500 / 3805 and better music in the 7500.

    At least one I've read as traded a 3805 for a 7500...

    For what I heard in the 7400 and 3805 I believe this.
     
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    Please excuse my newbie ignorance...

    I know it's hard to objectively describe differences in sound performance, but when you say "better" for music, can you try and expand on that for me?
     
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    You must listen for yourself... you can even not like anyone of these...
     
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    What they mean is the Marantz is nearer to a proper 2 channel amp in music reproduction. What you must also remember is that music plays a big part in films so a AV amp that "does" music well is very handy for films
     
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    My method to discern amp/processor differences, in particular, how they do/don't color the sound, is to listen to the receiver via the "Direct/Straight/Pure" mode. In this mode, the tone controls and DSPs are usually bypassed and one can achieve a more natural sound.

    In my experience, Marantz and Yamaha appear to promote closeness to neutrality, whereas Denon, Pioneer, HK and Sony tend to colour the sound either on the low or high frequency side. Some even emphasize the midrange. If one is interested in music reproduction being closer to the original recorded content, the former brands would be more appropriate.

    I say this though, knowing that for some people, what's "better for music" or musical to them, is perhaps a coloured warm or coloured bright/detailed sound so they may chose a product that fits their desired taste.

    However, the listening room, speakers and interconnected components has a significant impact on the perceived sound.
     
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    Yamaha appear to promote closeness to neutrality???
     
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    I dont think anyone can 'reasonably' say that : Denon make junk or Yamaha cant built good AV kit or Marantz is a load o b------ks etc etc. All have their ups and downs most of which is very subjective. My yammy is great in 'pure direct' very clean and natural but that is expressly my opinion and my preference to the way I like my sound, so as said before listen to both, they're both good (Denon & Marantz) and decide from there.

    Skinny
     
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    Never named junk. Yamaha is known to have grat Av Amps, but a bit processed sound in music, just that... but newer yamaha 1*00 and 2*00 series are known to be better...
     
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    One thing that sways me towards the SR7500 is the THX certification.
    Do you guys think it is worth the extra money to have this feature or not??

    If not I may test the 2805 at my local Sevenoaks audio and then take the plunge!
     
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    Deanooo, I wouldn't get too swayed by the certifications, power ratings, logos or flashing lights that are on the amps, all the marketing **** in the brochures is second to listening. Take a couple of hours out and enjoy listening to a few with your fav music / films. I have just changed from the Denon 1602 and the difference on both the Marantz and the new Denon will be significant which ever way you go. As soon as you get either home, you'll be pleased. :)
     
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    :D :D Sorry Falp, that was not directed at you :smashin: just a general comment implying that the brands in question are good in there own right
     
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    Of course skinnyfat

    Are you from SA? Joeburg?
     
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    SA - Yes

    Joburg - No

    Durban - Yes :D
     
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    Nice

    I love SA, family there, friends, last girlfriend...

    Went to Joeburg 2 yrs ago, Durban too in '82...

    I would Love to go to Cape Town.
     
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    I agree with the comment that yammies below the 1500 is normally considered not be neutral and I feel that they tend to boost mid and highs.

    The Marantz 7500 is a very good receiver in its price range and as mentioned is a "musical" amplifier i.e. it performs well reproducing stereo music and it is also good at HT.

    Falp, you should come visit Cape Town as well! Nothing wrong with Joburg(I stayed there for 7 years) or Durban(I was born there!), but Cape Town is quite different from these two. Well, way different to Joburg and not so much different to Durban.
     
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    When I made this statement, I was particularly referring to the higher-end Yamaha AVRs like the DSP-A, RX-Z and RX-V3000+ (all of which I owned before I got a Marantz SR-8500).
     
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    Me and my ex planned to make the Garden Route in the honeymoon, she lived in Joeburg half her life.
    Gone the ex, let the future smile and future honeymoons! ;)

    I talked to a few forum members of Trail bike foruns there in Cape Town. (I've got a Honda Transalp) :)
     
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    No doubt we all have different opinions on brands, and each model will be different, but I found the HK (8500 I think) more neutral than Yamaha amps I've heard.
     
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    Not disagreeing that music plays a big part of films, but for me, an AV amp that does music well, produces good stereo (or alt if Meridian for example) from a stereo input, as opposed to from a 5.1 DD/DTS input, where the musical quality will be different.
     
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    Forget the garden route, do the wine route :D . I was born in CT and as alphabet says, similar to Durbs

    Sorry for going :offtopic:
     
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    The thread kinda went into a "wish you were here... thing" but @ the OP, did you eventually demo and make a choice between the Denon/Marantz?
     
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    :oops: My auntie told me it is nice too :thumbsup:
     
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    After loads of umming and aaaarring I have decided to go for the Marantz, I will be picking it up from my local Sevenoaks sound and Vision this saturday so I will keep you all informed.
     
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    Deanooo,

    Think you will be very pleased. Please lets know your impessions though.
     

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