Denon 1930 - as good as the reviews?

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Shimmie

Guest
All,

I'm brand new to the home cinema scene, just about to buy my first set of gear, starting this weekend! Thanks in advance to anyone who helps - have been reading these forums for a few days and you guys certainly know your stuff.

I am buying a Panasonic 42PV70 (same as 42PX70 but without digital tuner) and am trying to decide what to get in terms of:
1. DVD and CD player
2. AV Receiver
3. Speakers
4. AV rack

I'm currently very tempted by the Sony STR-DA1200ES receiver, based mainly on its reviews. Also considering either the Atacama Equinox AV or Equinox AVI rack.

For the DVD / CD player, I'm thinking of the Denon 1930, but I was hoping to hear from some of you guys who actually have one. Is the 1930 worth the approx £200 price tag? Bare in mind the most I've spent previously on a DVD player is probably a third of that.

Really what I'm wondering is, when considered in the context of the upscaling ability of either/both the Panasonic plasma screen and the Sony receiver, do you think the upscaling and general movie playback performance of the Denon machine, combined with its music CD playbakc, would justify the price? Or would I perhaps be better getting a less expensive DVD player, and a separate CD player later down the line?

I have to admit, with so much talk of upscaling abilities (in TVs, receivers and DVD players) I find it very difficult to understand what the best approach would be! Any/all help much appreciated.

Any chance anyone out there already has a similar set-up?

Thanks again for your help.

Shimmie - absolute beginner in Dublin
 

ILIAS ATHENS

Standard Member
I own the Panasonic 42PX70 for about three weeks, and the Denon 1930 for about a month.

I've chosen the 1930 due to its best picture performance for a player up to 600 euros (greek survey), even better than the Marantz 6001 (which is slightly better in sound though). Whatever you chose, get a 1080p player though, it's worth it!! And next year, get yourself a nice BluRay & HD-DVD combo player (I guess LG, Samsung and Pioneer will introduce some models soon), which will then cost probably under 500 Euros!!

All I have to say, is that most people who watched a good quality DVD with the Panny PX70-Denon 1930 combination asked me where do I hide an HD source!! The picture is excellent, and it's important for you to know that the 42PX70 accepts perfectly well the 1080p signal from the 1930. And it's better than 720p and 1080i settings.

Only be careful to get a 1080p certified HDMI cable, as this boosts performance! I have a cheap one at the moment, but I would get the IXOS 1m soon!

I agree with the Sony 1200, as it's the cheapest 1080p receiver you can find in the market. The only bad thing about the Denon 1930 is that it delivers SACD multichannel sound only via the 5 (gold plated) RCA outputs at the back, and not through the coaxial cable (of course Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 are delivered by coaxial). My receiver is an old Pioneer 420 and now I need a new receiver too.. The Sony has 5.1 analog inputs, so nothing to worry about! I'd like a receiver with a USB though.. But this would be much more expensive.

As far as speakers are concerned, I can only suggest you the Roister HT-4000. This is a Greek brand, and this model voted as best '5.1 speaker system' in the market up to 1000 euros. I heard them with the Denon 1930 and a Harman/Kardon receiver (don't remember the model) and I was really impressed. I'm not sure if you'll find them in Ireland though..

As far as the Panny is concerned, it's the best plasma TVs currently in the market, in terms of picture performance. Excellent with TV signal, excellent with the Denon 1930, very good with freeview and perfect with HD (We watched the BluRay 'Casino Royale' disc through a PS3 and jumped out of our seats!!!!).

If you are a '1920*1080 freak', take a look at the new Samsung 40M86, the Sony 40W2000 (both 1080p) or the new Philips 42PF7641 (1920*1080 but not 1080p). I leave out the Philips 9731, which is the best TV in the market, but it costs 3500 euros (with this money you can buy 2 Panasonics 42PX70 and the Toshiba HD-XE1 Hd-DVD player!!!) These are the best LCDs around, but I prefer plasma! I can't stand the blurs, the blacks, the viewing angle, the motion and the pixel 'edges' of the LCDs.

I hope I've been helpful enough! Good luck with searching!!:clap:
 
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Shimmie

Guest
Thanks Ilias for your reply, and sorry for the delay responding to you.

Glad you like your new TV - I got my 42PX70 on Saturday and have to say so far I'm very happy indeed.

In the end, I ordered an Oppo 981 DVD player, after reading through this thread:Denon 1930 versus Oppo 981

I haven't received it yet so I can't tell you how good it is, but I'm sure it'll be great. I'm equally sure the Denon would have been terrific - it was a 50:50 call in the end. Couldn't really say why I chose one over the other, just gut feeling at the time.

I'm now trying to choose speakers to go with it all - this is harder work than I thought!!

Thanks again,

Simon
 

ILIAS ATHENS

Standard Member
oppo is a great choice as everybody says! Nice Buy!! Now we all wait till prices for HD-DVD and bluray players to drop! The Panny looks fantastic with HD sources!!
 

ILIAS ATHENS

Standard Member
I gave you my suggestion on speakers, but Roister is difficult to be found outside greece.. Roister HT-4000 is the model.. God luck! See the Minipods as well
 

mooney058

Standard Member
hi guys,

i am in a same boat, but 1-2 months behind you :(

could you clarify one isue - if i get my denon 1930 - is it possible to upscale my standard cable tv signal to hd level?

thanks!
 

ILIAS ATHENS

Standard Member
No, I guess you'll need a 1080p upscaling reveiver, like the Yamaha 2700 or the Sony 1200.. Impossible to get HD from Denon 1930, it's only a DVD player-a good one, indeed!! Wait till HD-DVD and BluRay players get cheaper. You can already find the Samsung for 400 pounds, and the Toshiba XE1 for 500.. Or try HTPC.
 

sk8

Active Member
1930 is a great player - my wife noticed a difference in the picture quality immediateley. Prior to this i had only spent £100 on an all in one so was dubious of spending £200 on one. Really pleased i did :thumbsup:
 

ILIAS ATHENS

Standard Member
Exactly! My wife was very angry about spending 300 euros on a player-only (that's how the 1930 was characterised!!) but when she saw the differences from the old player, she told me we did the right thing...:D
I don't know how to tell her about a new HD player..
 
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Shimmie

Guest
hi guys,

i am in a same boat, but 1-2 months behind you :(

could you clarify one isue - if i get my denon 1930 - is it possible to upscale my standard cable tv signal to hd level?

thanks!

The Denon 1930 will not make a difference to your cable TV signal. It will upscale your DVD's, giving an improvement in picture quality (but not to HD level of course).

If you want to upscale your TV signal, you will need an AV receiver capable of doing this. You're talking about the upper end of receivers for this, far as I can tell.

I actually started a thread on this topic recently - worth a glance:
Receiver that can upscale digital TV?
 

thunder367

Active Member
i have been enjoying this unit for the last 2 months now anf totally agree with what the reviews say.but does any1 have any links for me to make it mutli region as i have a lot of us dvds id like to play aswell the shop say tey are waiting for software release for it.they have had a few but most have made some of the functions not work at all after installing the software.so iam still waiting for the software or codes.some links be nice if any1 has any thanks
 

Keith Lynn

Standard Member
The Denon 1930 will not make a difference to your cable TV signal. It will upscale your DVD's, giving an improvement in picture quality (but not to HD level of course).

If you want to upscale your TV signal, you will need an AV receiver capable of doing this. You're talking about the upper end of receivers for this, far as I can tell.

I actually started a thread on this topic recently - worth a glance:
Receiver that can upscale digital TV?

How has your new DVD palyer going? Only interested as I am looking at the Denon 1930...If the oppo is better would love to know...
 

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