Denon 1909 - 3D Pass Through?

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  1. CatManDo

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    Hi all,

    I have a Denon 1909 which I use for video as well as audio switching, so I basically have one HDMI lead from Denon to TV and all my other devices such as Sky, Blu-Ray, Xbox etc all connected bu HDMI straight to the Denon.

    I am thinking of getting a 3D TV (TX-P50ST30) and wondering if the Denon will happily pass 3D signals from my devices to the TV?

    Many thanks,
     
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    I've just upgraded after 2 and a bit years with a 1909. The 1909 will not pass 3D to your new TV. Side by side 3D as broadcast on TV and used in a handful of 360 games will be OK but full 1080p 3D as found on BluRay and PS3 is a no-go.
     
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    Thanks, what did you upgrade to?

    Cheers
     
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    Anyone recommend a good replacement for the 1909 which will happily pass through 3D signals please?
     
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    anyone please?
     
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    I upgraded to the 1912 - got it for £279 from Richer Sounds. Several immediate benefits over the 1909 - 3D passthrough (tested with PS3 and Avatar 3D Bluray), Audyssey XT and Airplay (stream entire iTunes library from PC on network using iPad to control).

    Lots of litte niceties too - audio delay is now saved per input and the menu system is much easier to navigate now. Only one downer I have discovered so far - you can't mix and match video/audio inputs i.e. on he 1909 I could assign any audio input to any video source but on the 1912, this isn't possible. Not a biggy but worth knowing. Overall, I would definitely say I'm happy with my choice.
     
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    Thanks for your reply, I've been looking at the 1912 with interest. I note you comments about the inputs, my 1909 is currently set as the following:

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background-color: transparent;" class="xl22"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22"></td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22" height="17"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl24">HDP</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl24">VAUX</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl24">DVD</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22" height="17"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; 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background-color: transparent;" class="xl23">HDMI IN</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">HDMI2</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">HDMI3</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">HDMI1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl23" height="17"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl23">Digital In</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">None</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">None</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">OPT1</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl23" height="17"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; 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background-color: transparent;" class="xl23">Convert</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">On</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">On</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl23" height="17"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl23"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22"></td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl25" height="17" x:str="'3-3">3-3</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl23">Input Mode</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">HDMI</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">HDMI</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">Digital</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 12.75pt;" height="17"> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; height: 12.75pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl23" height="17"></td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl23">Decode Mode</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">Auto</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">Auto</td> <td style="border: 0px windowtext; background-color: transparent;" class="xl22">Auto</td> </tr></tbody></table>
    Would the 1912 handle this, I think its a fairly simple config.

    Thanks
     
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    Without doubt, yes, as you say quite a routine setup.

    It is also worth pointing out that the 1912 has no video processing (i.e. the 'convert' option you refer to above) but quite honestly, it was pretty much a waste of time anyway, I doubt many modern TVs would do a worse job at scaling.

    On that subject, you really should turn off processing on your Sky and Blu-ray inputs (Blu-ray definitely and if it's SkyHD, definitely that too). The image will be much better off being passed in it's original form to your HDTV - 1080p/24 from the Blu-ray and 1080i from the Sky box, the 1909 will do the video no favours from either source.
     
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    Thanks again for your advice, is the processing you refer to the 'convert' option on above? If so I will switch it off.

    Sorry but as you may have gathered I'm a but of a novice on this subject!
     
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    Yes, turn convert off for Bluray and Sky.
     

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