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Denon 1909 - 3D Pass Through?

CatManDo

Well-known Member
Hi all,

I have a Denon 1909 which I use for video as well as audio switching, so I basically have one HDMI lead from Denon to TV and all my other devices such as Sky, Blu-Ray, Xbox etc all connected bu HDMI straight to the Denon.

I am thinking of getting a 3D TV (TX-P50ST30) and wondering if the Denon will happily pass 3D signals from my devices to the TV?

Many thanks,
 

idbirch

Member
I've just upgraded after 2 and a bit years with a 1909. The 1909 will not pass 3D to your new TV. Side by side 3D as broadcast on TV and used in a handful of 360 games will be OK but full 1080p 3D as found on BluRay and PS3 is a no-go.
 

CatManDo

Well-known Member
I've just upgraded after 2 and a bit years with a 1909. The 1909 will not pass 3D to your new TV. Side by side 3D as broadcast on TV and used in a handful of 360 games will be OK but full 1080p 3D as found on BluRay and PS3 is a no-go.
Thanks, what did you upgrade to?

Cheers
 

CatManDo

Well-known Member
Anyone recommend a good replacement for the 1909 which will happily pass through 3D signals please?
 

idbirch

Member
I upgraded to the 1912 - got it for £279 from Richer Sounds. Several immediate benefits over the 1909 - 3D passthrough (tested with PS3 and Avatar 3D Bluray), Audyssey XT and Airplay (stream entire iTunes library from PC on network using iPad to control).

Lots of litte niceties too - audio delay is now saved per input and the menu system is much easier to navigate now. Only one downer I have discovered so far - you can't mix and match video/audio inputs i.e. on he 1909 I could assign any audio input to any video source but on the 1912, this isn't possible. Not a biggy but worth knowing. Overall, I would definitely say I'm happy with my choice.
 

CatManDo

Well-known Member
I upgraded to the 1912 - got it for £279 from Richer Sounds. Several immediate benefits over the 1909 - 3D passthrough (tested with PS3 and Avatar 3D Bluray), Audyssey XT and Airplay (stream entire iTunes library from PC on network using iPad to control).

Lots of litte niceties too - audio delay is now saved per input and the menu system is much easier to navigate now. Only one downer I have discovered so far - you can't mix and match video/audio inputs i.e. on he 1909 I could assign any audio input to any video source but on the 1912, this isn't possible. Not a biggy but worth knowing. Overall, I would definitely say I'm happy with my choice.
Thanks for your reply, I've been looking at the 1912 with interest. I note you comments about the inputs, my 1909 is currently set as the following:

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Would the 1912 handle this, I think its a fairly simple config.

Thanks
 

idbirch

Member
Without doubt, yes, as you say quite a routine setup.

It is also worth pointing out that the 1912 has no video processing (i.e. the 'convert' option you refer to above) but quite honestly, it was pretty much a waste of time anyway, I doubt many modern TVs would do a worse job at scaling.

On that subject, you really should turn off processing on your Sky and Blu-ray inputs (Blu-ray definitely and if it's SkyHD, definitely that too). The image will be much better off being passed in it's original form to your HDTV - 1080p/24 from the Blu-ray and 1080i from the Sky box, the 1909 will do the video no favours from either source.
 

CatManDo

Well-known Member
Without doubt, yes, as you say quite a routine setup.

It is also worth pointing out that the 1912 has no video processing (i.e. the 'convert' option you refer to above) but quite honestly, it was pretty much a waste of time anyway, I doubt many modern TVs would do a worse job at scaling.

On that subject, you really should turn off processing on your Sky and Blu-ray inputs (Blu-ray definitely and if it's SkyHD, definitely that too). The image will be much better off being passed in it's original form to your HDTV - 1080p/24 from the Blu-ray and 1080i from the Sky box, the 1909 will do the video no favours from either source.
Thanks again for your advice, is the processing you refer to the 'convert' option on above? If so I will switch it off.

Sorry but as you may have gathered I'm a but of a novice on this subject!
 

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