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Sparky101

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I'm looking to buy either the 42" Panny or the Pioneer 43" MXE but I'm struggling to find anyone with one on display. I live in Ipswich so does anyone know of anyone in East Anglia where I could take a look at one of these bad boys?

I've tried Sevenoaks, Richer Sounds, Shop at Panasonic (who can't get one would you believe?!) and Hughes and no one has one in.

Anyone?
 

Cabo 5150

Member
Go for the Panny dude, IMHO the picture quality is superior, with a contrast ratio of 3000:1 (yes I know this is a highly contentious figure, but it beats out the Poineer I think - and just about every other currently avialable Plasma). :D
 

Sparky101

Novice Member
Thanks for yours views Cabo but I'm really looking to see these 2 in person to make the judgement myself. I would also like to see if the buzzing and flickering issues are a big deal or not.
 

Rich

Active Member
the best place round this area(manchester) to view plasmas are debenhams or selfridges(or any large department store) who have many plasmas on display,do you not have big department stores near you ?
 

Sparky101

Novice Member
We've got a Debenhams here in Ipswich. Never thought to try somewhere like that, I was concentrating on the specialist shops.
 
You will be lucky to find an mxe to demo as its more of a commercial product. I have one and its in another league compared to the panny imo, bigger , no buzzing , higher resoulution ,better connections and upgradable , , a bit more expensive though.
 
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steelej

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Come on Installer, lets not lead the man astray, the panny and pioneer are both fantastic displays but neither are in a different league from the other :)

And the pioneer is only an inch bigger, that shouldn't matter now should it :)

John.
 

Cabo 5150

Member
Originally posted by steelej
Come on Installer, lets not lead the man astray, the panny and pioneer are both fantastic displays but neither are in a different league from the other :)

And the pioneer is only an inch bigger, that shouldn't matter now should it :)

John.
Yeah I agree steelej, although I still think the Panny has the edge as I quoted earlier. Dont' think that inch makes much difference, although some would argue size really does matter :D
 

Joe Fernand

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Cabl5150

That extra inch can make a big difference - there must be some strange geometrical formulas at work her but I do find that quite a few prospective customers can accommodate the 42" Panasonic display (ex speakers) and for whatever reason cant accommodate the 43" Pioneer display 9ex spakers) .

If you have the space the 43" does have more 'impact' than the 42" display.

I must concur with steelej that both the Panasonic and the Pioneer displays produce excellent video images - though I think installer09 has raised very valid plus points in favour of the Pioneer display.

Best regards

Joe
 

Sparky101

Novice Member
No luck in my local Debenhams so it looks like it's a trip to John Lewis at Bluewater. Anyone seen the Panny's or Pioneer's there?
 

AOD

Active Member
If you're going to Bluewater, there's a shop that opened recently selling Plasmas and LCD TVs "You & Me TV".

It's on the ground floor midway between House of Fraser and Marks & Spencer (underneath Ed's diner).

They have a selection on display including a Panasonic in the window (with a price sign for an LG underneath :( ). I don't recall seeing the Pioneer.

Don't expect much in the way of expert knowledge. The first time I went in I remember thinking "The aspect ratio on those characters just doesn't look right, they look too 'wide' ". After experimenting with the aspect button on an LCD TV I found out why. The screens were being fed a 4:3 image, but stretched to fit the whole screen. Ugh!

Also, they really should get some demo films other than Monsters Inc. and Toy Story. ;)
 

Jeb

Standard Member
Just to throw a spanner into the works the Toshiba 42WP16 is a Panny rebadged, if you shop around you can get these for a lot less $$$$ than a Panny.

I have the Tosh and one of my friends has a 433MXE,
IMHO the Tosh wins on picture quality but the Pioneer is an inch bigger, looks prettier (when switched off) and has a seperate tuner box with more connections SCARTs etc.

The 433MXE costs about £1k more than the Tosh, based on my experience I would go Tosh and spend the £1k on a new amp or DVD player.

:devil: :p :devil:

JEB
 

sparkz

Standard Member
installer09:

I'm thinking if getting the MXE. You mentioned upgradable. I'm curious. How is the MXE upgradable?

Jeb:

Isn't that the HDE your friend has?

I thought, although I've never seen the two side by side, that the MXE has a better picture than the HDE. More colours and levels of grey according to the data.

Sparkz
 
Hi Sparkz , jeb is talking about the HDE model , a big difference in picture quality compared to the MXE , there is a dvi board being bought out in the new year which slots straight into the MXE card slot. it should give another big hike in picture quality. Joe Fernand is the person to speak to about that.
 

sparkz

Standard Member
installer09. Thanks for that.

I guess that's only really a benefit to HTPC users. I must look into this HTPC a bit more though...

Sparkz
 

Sparky101

Novice Member
Originally posted by AOD
If you're going to Bluewater, there's a shop that opened recently selling Plasmas and LCD TVs "You & Me TV".

It's on the ground floor midway between House of Fraser and Marks & Spencer (underneath Ed's diner).

They have a selection on display including a Panasonic in the window (with a price sign for an LG underneath :( ). I don't recall seeing the Pioneer.

Don't expect much in the way of expert knowledge. The first time I went in I remember thinking "The aspect ratio on those characters just doesn't look right, they look too 'wide' ". After experimenting with the aspect button on an LCD TV I found out why. The screens were being fed a 4:3 image, but stretched to fit the whole screen. Ugh!

Also, they really should get some demo films other than Monsters Inc. and Toy Story. ;)
Thanks AOD, I'll see if I can find that shop when I head down to Bluewater.
 

Jeb

Standard Member
You boys know your stuff, I have confered with my associate and indeed he has a PDP-433HDE.

I'll get my coat.

;)

Jeb
 

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