Steve356
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Keep it going, girls.
I hope you enjoy your home demo sessions. The Lyngdorf offers more features than the Hegel, so you should do comparisons of the Hegel features (DAC / integrated amp) vs the comparable features in the Lyngdorf, ie not the streamer or RoomPerfect in the Lyngdorf or you won't be comparing apples with applies.OP here, finally got round to organising home demo. Got a TDAI 1120 arriving Friday alongside a Hegel H120 for comparison which I really liked when demo'd in store. Going to be driving a pair of Kef R3's. All loaned for a couple of weeks.
Will let you know how it goes... can't wait now!
Thx for the feedback however not sure I'd agree with this approach. RP is a key selling point and feature of the 1120 so I want to hear how it compares to an amp which doesn't have any form of room correction. If I don't do that comparison I'm effecting demo'ing the Lyngdorf with one arm tied behind it's back. Ultimately I want to buy the product that sounds the best with the equipment/room I'm using so need to hear each product at it's best.I hope you enjoy your home demo sessions. The Lyngdorf offers more features than the Hegel, so you should do comparisons of the Hegel features (DAC / integrated amp) vs the comparable features in the Lyngdorf, ie not the streamer or RoomPerfect in the Lyngdorf or you won't be comparing apples with applies.
For a better comparison with all the Lyngdorf 1120 features, you could consider an all-in-one from Naim (no room correction I believe), or the M10 from NAD (not the latest Class D technology), or the NAD C658 + C298 combination - probably the best comparison. All these are in similar price range. I'd suggest the much better M33 or the Micromega M100, but these are a significant price jump compared with the 1130 and are more comparable price-wise with the Lyngdorf 3400. Good luck.
I hope you enjoy your home demo sessions. The Lyngdorf offers more features than the Hegel, so you should do comparisons of the Hegel features (DAC / integrated amp) vs the comparable features in the Lyngdorf, ie not the streamer or RoomPerfect in the Lyngdorf or you won't be comparing apples with applies.
For a better comparison with all the Lyngdorf 1120 features, you could consider an all-in-one from Naim (no room correction I believe), or the M10 from NAD (not the latest Class D technology), or the NAD C658 + C298 combination - probably the best comparison. All these are in similar price range. I'd suggest the much better M33 or the Micromega M100, but these are a significant price jump compared with the 1130 and are more comparable price-wise with the Lyngdorf 3400. Good luck.
Hi PfazThx for the feedback however not sure I'd agree with this approach. RP is a key selling point and feature of the 1120 so I want to hear how it compares to an amp which doesn't have any form of room correction. If I don't do that comparison I'm effecting demo'ing the Lyngdorf with one arm tied behind it's back. Ultimately I want to buy the product that sounds the best with the equipment/room I'm using so need to hear each product at it's best.
For sure Nad M10 is a contender at this price point and it's a product ideally I'd be able to get in over the next couple of weeks but easier said than done. M33 is a big step up in price and probably a stretch too far but would you consider the C658/C298 a better sounding combination than the M10? I'll take the hit on streaming features for a better sounding product as I can also stick a digione or something else in front as a streamer if needed later on.
One of the main selling points of a Lyngdorf is Room Perfect.
What on Earth is the point of auditioning an amp and not using one of its stand out features?
Paul - you really a moron. Why do you have to resort to ignorance and rudeness in so many of your posts? It doesn't help anyone, least of all the OP. I am trying to help him - you are rubbishing anyone who dares to suggest that the Lyngdorf isn't the world's best amplifier and everything else is junk.You seem to have your panties all bunched up with some old prejudice and semi-knowledge (being polite).
Really, I’ve seldom come across more nonsense in any given place; even on the internet...
The dealer is really going with my direction so no foul play there. This is really about having a chance to listen to both in my room which is essential. It could be I'm not happy with either option or maybe I'll be blown away. Earlier comparisons made the Hegel my preferred but I never got a decent demo of the Lyngdorf (see earlier reported volume issue) so I ruled it out pending a home trial as it was always on my shortlist.Be suspicious if a dealer for Lyngdorf has suggested you take a Hegel as well to compare. He should be offering you 2 comparable amps (in terms of facilities) to compare one against the other.
The dealer is really going with my direction so no foul play there. This is really about having a chance to listen to both in my room which is essential. It could be I'm not happy with either option or maybe I'll be blown away. Earlier comparisons made the Hegel my preferred but I never got a decent demo of the Lyngdorf (see earlier reported volume issue) so I ruled it out pending a home trial as it was always on my shortlist.
I wish I had the patience to listen to every product on the market between £2k-£3k and many would argue that what's I should do. Other highly regarded options would include everything from an ncore or purifi power amp plus streamer/dac/preamp to other all in ones such as the M10 plus a bunch of other lesser known (well to me anyway) products such the Moon Neo Ace and whole raft of products in between.
Sorry pfaz, I omitted my response to this question. Yes, undoubtedly a much better sound. The C298 (power amp) uses arguable the best Class D amplification technology available right now (Purifi Eigentakt) and it's also a lot more powerful than the M10, which is particularly important if you have low efficiency speakers.would you consider the C658/C298 a better sounding combination than the M10?
I am sure you will have a great time. It is a real dilemma trying to find amps that you think you want to try and then be able to demo them. I was fortunate enough to be able to get a demo of a couple of Lyngdorf amps recently with my own speakers. Unfortunately I was only listening to the Lyngdorf's rather than comparing them to anything else but as my priority was just hearing them that wasn't such a big issue. To be honest, I would be doing a three way test with the two amps: Lyngdorf "as-is" (ie no RP) vs the Lyngdorf with RP - just to see the difference and whether you have a preference. Then I would be trying the Lyngdorf vs the Hegel and again, switch between RP on and off. Both are really decent amps so it will be a fascinating demo. Looking forward to hearing your thoughtsOP here, finally got round to organising home demo. Got a TDAI 1120 arriving Friday alongside a Hegel H120 for comparison which I really liked when demo'd in store. Going to be driving a pair of Kef R3's. All loaned for a couple of weeks.
Will let you know how it goes... can't wait now!
Tell me about it. It would so be much easier if we could all just agree on what's best at various price points but where's the fun in thatI am sure you will have a great time. It is a real dilemma trying to find amps that you think you want to try and then be able to demo them.
Tell me about it. It would so be much easier if we could all just agree on what's best at various price points but where's the fun in that
thx @Paul7777x . I noticed from the mammoth Lyngdorf thread that you had some issues when first setting up RP and weren't completely sold at first. Any lessons learnt/tips you can share from your early experience to help get the best from it?If I wasn’t enamoured of RP by years of trial and error with four different room correction systems I’d liked to have tried the Hegel amps if only because of their fantastic damping factor.
If you find that RP is not your thing then the Hegel should certainly take top class control of your speakers.
thx @Paul7777x . I noticed from the mammoth Lyngdorf thread that you had some issues when first setting up RP and weren't completely sold at first. Any lessons learnt/tips you can share from your early experience to help get the best from it?
Is there an amp/cd toggle on there for which device it controls. IIRC there was a single remote that controls both the amps and the CD player.Only other issue is that the dealer kindly shipped it with the h/w remote but for some reason it fails to control the amp. The remote led is lighting on keypress, it has new batteries and I've checked the settings and Remote Control is definitely enabled. Is there a pairing process I'm missing?
It does look like it controls CD player as well but no obvious toggle button or it's under my nose and I cant see it. it's nbd anyway, I've got the app remote/browser working fine but cheers for the suggestionIs there an amp/cd toggle on there for which device it controls. IIRC there was a single remote that controls both the amps and the CD player.
It does look like it controls CD player as well but no obvious toggle button or it's under my nose and I cant see it. it's nbd anyway, I've got the app remote/browser working fine but cheers for the suggestion