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Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by cmnunes, Jul 12, 2005.

  1. cmnunes

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    I just cant make my mind.
    I have read lots of reviews, been reading this forum. Still cant really decide.
    So if anyone could help, will be appreciated.
    I want a projector for seeing Dvd movies only. With my actual budget ( about 1.500£ for the PJ) i saw a few ones, all good they say.
    Themescene H30A, Infocus 4805, Mitsubish HC900, Panasonic AE700U. I know i am not putting any Benq, because I cant find any decent around here, only the BenQ PE5120.

    Then I saw an ebayer/shop online at http://www.luzerntech.com/catalog/it-index-cP-35/Infocus-Projectors.html where i can get the Infocus 5700, or even the Infocus 7205 (this at ebay for 1530£). I know they are refurbished. Anyone got any experience with them ?

    Another thing, is i would like to have a big screen, i am thinking in something around 320cmx180cm (i got about a throw distance up to 7,5 meters, so should be ok, i hope).

    Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide.

    Edit: Correct some english
     
  2. PJTX100

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    If you are thinking of a screen that big you'll need high lumens and you are probably best sticking with a HiDef capable PJ. Can you stretch to the Benq 7700?

    ...PJ :)
     
  3. cmnunes

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    How much is going the BenQ7700 and if you can indicate a shop (preferbably online).

    Thanks
     
  4. inzaman

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    The Benq is being quoted at about £1,450 but i am not sure if any UK retailers have any stocks yet. Anyone :confused:
     
  5. cyberheater

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    The Mitsubish HC900 is the best machine to go for just for DVD movie watching.

    It's got a native panel resolution of 1024*576 which means it displays full PAL vertical resolution WITHOUT scaling. All the other machines need to scale for DVD and scaling always introduces artifacts.

    Also, it's got up to 4000:1 contrast ratio. Better then any of the others on your list.

    I've read dozens of reviews of the Mitsubish HC900 and they all highly rate the machine.

    Put it this way. I only watch DVD's and it's going to be my next machine.

    Check out a review here.

    http://www.ausmedia.com.au/HC900 _mitsubishi.html
     
  6. PJTX100

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    C'mon Cybes you've been around here long enough to know you can't get away with sweeping statements like that. :D

    I've been similarly impressed with some of the comments about the HC900, but I've also read a lot of comments like those below and it confirms that, like every other PJ, it ain't perfect...PJ :)


    Extended viewings, however, showed up a few holes in the HC900's otherwise positive picture story. Onscreen images would sometimes pixelate quite seriously, particularly in fast-moving, high-contrast scenes such as the asteroid chase in Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones. This was not limited to movement, however, as it was once again evident in practically still scenes from the DVD release of Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi (such as with C3PO's gold plating during the Endor sequences). These picture glitches didn't happen all the time, but often enough to be noticeable. And while we're on negatives, we found the HC900 to be fairly loud--it's rated at 30dB in low lamp mode, making it one of the noisier models out there.

    With passable performance, the HC900 finds itself in a tough spot against lower-priced competitors that offer better specs. The Panasonic PT-AE700E, for example, offers a higher resolution of 1,280 x 720 plus HDMI (although its brightness is rated at only 1000 ANSI lumens). Ditto for the Sanyo Z3. The Mitsubishi Electric HC900 is a decent entry-level projector, but it's outshone by cheaper and more impressively specced rivals.
     
  7. cyberheater

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    I'd love to have a go with that pj and a filter to see what was capable of. :)

    Gary.
     
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    So would I. :D
     
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    I'd go for the BenQ 7700 because its a very good option for bang for your buck. HD ready, top mid-range PJ and only £1,450 (compared to the Infocus 7205 its a steal) and its future proof! Well it is until 1080p PJ's are released:)
     
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    I read this on the AVS PE7700 thread in response to a firmware update question it may explain the delay.

    We have withdrawn the last batch of units, because we discovered a manufacturing error in this batch before we started the sales. Unfortunately we're not able to solve it with software and have to bring back the units to our manufacturing site and solve the issue. The error has been solved and manufacturing has been resumed, however ti will take some time, before we can fullfill the demand to this already very popular model.

    Since this error was not in the previous batch of sold models, there is no need to repair these units.

    If you have any further concern, please let me know.

    Best regards,

    Paul Welp
    Customer Service Specialist


    Foghorn
     
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    I'd tend to agree. With HD relatively imminent, and a very viable prospect within the life of a PJ bought now, I wouldn't entertain anything less than WXGA...PJ :)
     
  13. cmnunes

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    First of all, thanks for all the replys.

    But i still got one doubt.
    Pal system is 576p, so if my main goal is DVD view, should i get on top of my list a 576p PJ ?
    Saying this because BenQ is a 720p, and from what i have read here, scaling (either up or down) will tend to insert artifacts.

    At least i am getting my list shorter, so i can get a demo.
    Now i am down to

    DLP
    Mitsubish HC900 (576p)
    BenQ PE7700 (720p)
    Infocus 5700 (576p)

    LCD
    Panasonic AE700U(720p)

    Anyone seen a review of a Benq PE7700 ?
    Couldnt find any yet.

    Edit:
    Is ThemeScene H57 worth consider ? about the same price as the BenQ.
     
  14. dunamis

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    :lesson:
    Go to Google
    Search for: PE7700 review
    Take your pick.

    Honestly, it doesn't get much easier... ;)
     
  15. PJTX100

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    Not if in 12 months time when, say, a HD player gets released for sub £300 and they release LOTR box set on HD....

    And 576p looks very nice on 720p.

    ...PJ :)
     
  16. cyberheater

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    Or watch perfect DVD's for a couple of years and watch HD-def (when it eventually surfaces in the UK) on it and it will still look amazing.
     
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    Mmmmmm tease. :)

    Sounds too good to be true if that were to happen like that, but I did pay nearly £300 for my 1st DVD player so I wouldn't mind spending something less on a new drive for the PC and if HD tapes are less than £20 I hope HD DVDs will be too. Roll on Christmas!

    Gary.
     
  18. inzaman

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    Indeed and one of the excellent things about hcpc is that when hd does come out hopefully it is just a case of buying a hd drive at a good price :thumbsup: oh yeah and the movies too.
     
  19. cyberheater

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    Which is an excellent point.

    I wonder what spec you need to run hd movies on PC.
     
  20. Gary Lightfoot

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    I think it's something like 3200mhz CPU, 512meg of ram and a good graphics card like the Radeon 9600 or better. Not a great expense to get you up and running with great image quality.

    Gary.
     
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    Well Gary if those are the specs then i am there all ready, all be it with an overclocked XP2500 :eek:
     
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    Thanks Gary.
     
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    Why not just drop a Skystar 2 card in a spare pci slot m8 and get hold of a cheap dish and lnb and view the Hi def offerings now on Astra 19 east and hotbird 13 east ( 8 channels at the moment)
    The quality is truly amazing :D but if the Pc spec is at the limit watch it struggle.
    My cpu runs at 100 % with hi def but only 12 % with Sd .Currently running a Athlon 2500,Ati 9800 pro graphics, SS1 & SS2 , hooked up to Toshiba mt200 :smashin:
     
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    Off topic a bit, but what channels and how much for the card?
     
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    You can buy a SkyStar2 from this excellent online store in Germany http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php?cPath=1_10&products_id=123
    Priced at just 46.90 Euros plus 17.40 for DHL Express delivery which equates to about 38 pounds.
     
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    Is that due to post processing etc or just the fact that the cpu has to work hard to stream the content.

    My processor when playing PAL material through ffdshow is pretty much maxed out, hence why i overclocked it, it is still at about 90% now but there is no stuttering etc.

    Interesting about the dish, i might have a look into that tbh.
     

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