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Decent bundle v seperates

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by dobbo, Apr 24, 2003.

  1. dobbo

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    Looking at a new AV system which will double for music and have looked at Sony bundle ie 550, Denon AVF100s and separates ie Tosh 520, Keff Speakers, Yamaha amp - but looks significantly more expensive

    Can anyone suggest the benefits of a seperate system other than upgrades and if going down a seperate system how to build it for a reasonable cost
     
  2. MarkE19

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    What do you call a reasonable cost?

    There are lots of cheap AV retailers. Buy a decent AV mag to find adverts.
    If you look at somewhere such as Richer Sounds then you can find:

    Speaker packages from under £200
    AV receivers from around £100
    DVD players from around £50

    Add cables to the list and your budget can still be below £400

    Sound quality will be better for separates and as you mention you can upgrade each piece of equipment as money becomes available :devil:

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    The Denon I can get for 650 but am prepared to go up to 1400 if there are real benefits

    One issue will be speaker size - they will probably have to be wife friendly


    I like Toshiba and would possibly buy there new Recordable DVD player - replacing the need for a video recorder at same point
     
  4. nathan_silly

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    Examples...
    Kef Eggs £600 or
    Ruark Vita £800?
    Energy Take 5.1 £600

    AV Amp, say £200-£300 + Yamaha 6xx series
    DVD player £100-£200, Toshiba/Pioneer
    Cables £80
    Subwoofer £200-£500 (buy later)
     
  5. dobbo

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    Should I wait if I can get bigger speakers -

    new to this business and have been told the bigger the speaker the better
     
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    Bigger=better mainly for subs.

    Standmounts or floorstanders for fronts depending if the floorstanders are designed well, and are of good quality (need to spend at least £500 to get decent floorstanders)

    Wheras you can get very similar level or performance for much less (or for £500 for standmounts performance surpassing the £500 floorstanders)
     
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    I reckon I can get a 'decent' DVD for approximately 200, a receiver for about 300 - but speakers you can pick up from 50 to 5000

    If I have 600 - 700 left for speakers should I buy components and build up or should I get a decent set for that amount ?
     
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    Speakers should really be from the same series. In an ideal world all 5/6/7 speakers would be the same make & model. This is very rarely possible/practicle so just stick to the same make and range. This way you get a more even soundstage. The exception to this rule is the sub.

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    Thanks I will take that on board - but from what you are suggesting as well is I should go large - ie not going for the same size of satellites ie eggs
     
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    Aye, Kef Eggs are good for the size, but IMO a decent sized standmount (say Kef Q15) surpass sats, even upto the point with the Kef Q15 setup a subwoofer can be delayed and bought later. Wheras with Kef Egg system is subwoofer is a MUST.

    Therefore not only will the Kef Q15 sound better in stereo & AV (because they have better midrange & lower bass handling to ~50hz) you can also look around for a mutha of a sub - wheras the Kef Egg subwoofer is pretty mediocre.
     
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    For an absolute beginner it is good to be able to come to a site like this and get the help needed - buying the magazines is fine and believe me I have but sometimes it is just too much information - I will probably end up getting sub, two fronts (use for audio as well) centre and two small surrounds

    Will start looking at Richer Sounds, uinless you have anywhere better
     
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    Don't just look at RS. They are good but they only have a limited range of products.
    You say you have some AV mags, look at the adverts in there. This will give a far larger range of options.

    Good luck & happy hunting.
    Mark.
     
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    I really don't think much of Richer Sounds. Great for bargains and experienced AV buffs - we know what we want, what's good etc.

    But for the begineer I would recommend NOT purchasing from Richer Sounds. The salesmen have hardly any knowledge (for example told me to get rid of Audiolab system for a budget Yamaha AV amp), also just getting things wrong (if they proceeded the would have blow up speakers)- this is with several sales guys.
     
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    Superfi and hifibitz are good as are sevenoaks (Pricey) If you went with the denonamp, B&W 600 series speakers would do you well as would a pioneer 656 dvd but budget is the factor! What sort of Display will you be using? CRT.Plasma,PJ?
     
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    Toshiba 32ZD26
     
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    Another good place to start is here in the classifieds by the way, especially for speakers. I started my home cinema system back in october-ish. I managed to get bit by bit a Tannoy 5.0 system (MX3, MXC, MX1s with atacma nexus 5 rear stands) all for about £190 off the hardware classifieds.

    I coupled this with a £110 Pioneer DV350 from amazon, and a £100 Pioneer VSXC300 slimline amp (that was on a special since the newer model was coming out) from richers, and spend about £30 on various cables etc, so thats £430ish for a system I am very happy with (but pales in comparison to some of the monster systems floating around these boards!)
     

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