Just placed my bi-annual order for blank discs over the internet and amongst the 200 discs I ordered was a tub of 50 datawrite red V3's for under £8. I thought, these'll do for giving away to people who want to something recording but don't have a DVD recorder yet. Anyway, I expected them to be complete rubbish for the price, but they're not too shabby! I've recorded a dozen or so in my Panasonic E85 and in the PC (Pioneer 107 drive) and they've all burnt flawlessy. They play back ok in everything so far, and skipping between chapters is brisk... and I always believe that to be a good sign. I know all media is alot cheaper than it was 12 months ago, but these are really dirt cheap and with Ritek G05 discs not offering the reliability of earlier Ritek discs, these Datawrite reds will remain on my shopping list.