Dark and moody home cinema/lounge area

Triggaaar

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The wall is going to have more than an 83 inch TV on it. 83 inches is really not that big against a wall that is 4-5m wide imo.
Sure, but the coving etc that you mentioned wouldn't get covered up by either a TV or projector screen.

Are you planning to have the screen fitted inside the ceiling, so that it's flush when not in use.
 

kenshingintoki

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Sure, but the coving etc that you mentioned wouldn't get covered up by either a TV or projector screen.

Are you planning to have the screen fitted inside the ceiling, so that it's flush when not in use.

I'm not just talking about just coveing. The curtains will obstruct the texture of the back wall etc.

For example, I'm contemplating doing a feature wall behind the projector screen/TV. Either something simple and cheap like they have here:
or if i can find a semi precious/granite type stone which would fit the room aesthetic, a HT version of this: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/17/fd/a1/17fda117199a5171d4049ef35f208dc8.jpg
(not that stone)

Nothing set in stone as the room isn't even on a piece of paper yet from the architect but these are all things I'm trying to consider.


For hiding the PJ screen's disgusting body:
Was thinking something more like that.

I am contemplating ceiling recessing it completely as you say. However I'll potentially sell this house in 24-48 months and I'd rather have the coving-design above which is a bit more simple and easier to erase; rather than a long thin hole in ceiling with the recess of the plastic bar from the projector which'd be visible.

Neither is ideal though.
 

kenshingintoki

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You do bring up a great point on the centre channel though if I don't go AT. Its going to have to be a compromise of some sorts.

I did toy with the idea of having a massive AT screen with a back wall for the speakers and gear, having a ceiling recessed ALR screen in coving for when I want to activate 'AT' mode etc.


I just wish I could afford two HT rooms. One dedicated for a legit cinema and one which is an entertaining cinematic room. I'm having to edge towards the latter as much as I love AV gear, once COVID settles I wll appreciate the latter more.
 

Triggaaar

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However I'll potentially sell this house in 24-48 months
Oh, that could change things.


I'm not just talking about just coveing. The curtains will obstruct the texture of the back wall etc.

For example, I'm contemplating doing a feature wall behind the projector screen/TV. Either something simple and cheap like they have here:
or if i can find a semi precious/granite type stone which would fit the room aesthetic, a HT version of this: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/17/fd/a1/17fda117199a5171d4049ef35f208dc8.jpg
(not that stone)
Ok. I've seen some of the things you were looking at on your previous thread, but I didn't know you were considering them from the screen wall.


For hiding the PJ screen's disgusting body:
Was thinking something more like that.
Of course we all have to make compromises, but I'm not over keen on that, and it wouldn't be ideal when you sell. Recessing in the ceiling isn't necessarily easy, but since the room isn't even on paper yet, it's certainly something to think about.

It would be good if you could put a whole plan of the room up, so people can get a better idea of what you're having.
 

beechy06

Well-known Member
I just wish I could afford two HT rooms. One dedicated for a legit cinema and one which is an entertaining cinematic room. I'm having to edge towards the latter as much as I love AV gear, once COVID settles I wll appreciate the latter more.
Why not go for a simple TV with sound bar or 2.1 setup for this more living type space then have the projector / full av set up in a separate space? Need to see those floor plans ha do you not have one from the sale listing?

Also why are you looking to sell in 2-4 years? Sounds like a short period when you are ploughing in all this money and work into a big extension?
 

kenshingintoki

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Why not go for a simple TV with sound bar or 2.1 setup for this more living type space then have the projector / full av set up in a separate space? Need to see those floor plans ha do you not have one from the sale listing?

Also why are you looking to sell in 2-4 years? Sounds like a short period when you are ploughing in all this money and work into a big extension?


Sorry... never a soundbar from seperates for me!!!
I struggle to go back from the size of projection to a TV. I did have a 77'' OLED for 6 months, just felt it was very underwhelming but beautiful.

Have 2 other living room areas in the house planned for TVs +/- .. maybe.. soundbars.

TBH I want to enjoy and use the full AV setup.. and I don't imagine having friends over and having parties and people sitting in a blacked out cinema room. It needs to combine two facets of my life.. entertaining, parties, etc. and home cinema.




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I don't really want to get into finances too much as sometimes people get annoyed (and everyone seems to have an opinion) but to answer your second question. Extension is to add value to house to sell for more money.

I'm aiming to sell because in 2 years time my wage should be up by 200% so I can afford a better mortgage so a better house. If I'm married by then and to someone who earns a comparable wage then obviously I'll be moving on to a different price point again.

My alternative plan is to extend, remortgage and take the equity + whatever the house price has increased by with appreciation + the construction work which should have added value and deposit it into next property. If I can pull off some smart, cost-effective construction alongside some quality but mindful finishing touches, should ensure I get a very good return.

If the market is down or not appreciating how I want within 24-48 months, I'll hold the property and rent it out and move on and sell at a later stage.



In summary, extension is an investment into the property as opposed to trying to improve my living circumstances. If I'm able to pull off the building work, it'll comfortable increase the value of the property (I've taken into account previous sales, current sales of comparable, better and worse properties). Of course anything like this is based on a element of risk/benefit analysis.. as the housing market could crash.. if it does, I rent it.
 

kenshingintoki

Distinguished Member
Why not go for a simple TV with sound bar or 2.1 setup for this more living type space then have the projector / full av set up in a separate space? Need to see those floor plans ha do you not have one from the sale listing?

Also why are you looking to sell in 2-4 years? Sounds like a short period when you are ploughing in all this money and work into a big extension?


just check out your room again!! I think combing bothing is going to be sooo difficult now. how big is ur room?


ur point on 2 separate rooms is a good one actually.. why not have a separate whsikey/bar room.. and a home cinema room.

in short the answer is because i don't want a home cinema room coming off of the kitchen nor a bar coming off the kitchen. I want all rooms accessible off the hall way of the house and the only room I'm prepared (at present) to have 'off' the kitchen or open plan from the kitchen is the dining area.

Its difficult for me to explain without plans. I did try to draw up some rubbish idea on paint but it wouldn't save as an image lol.. but its nothing complex. very simple.
 

beechy06

Well-known Member
Yeah I think a discrete in wall 2.1 set up or something with a TV would work well in an area that you plan to socialise more in, I think down the road in my next home i’d like something like that in an open living area and the separate dedicated cinema room but again depends on what space / rooms you have to work with.

Mentioned on my thread to your post but its long at 6.15m by 3.38m on the screen wall, due to the shape and size it led me to the set up I have, similar to your intentions having a tv for normal / more casual viewing in day time, although in reality the projector is almost always on!

And totally understand re investment / finances, worth bearing in mind then when designing and layout then if you don’t plan to be there long term, god knows what i’ll end up doing when I move down the line with all these holes in the walls and roof :rotfl:
 

kenshingintoki

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Yeah I think a discrete in wall 2.1 set up or something with a TV would work well in an area that you plan to socialise more in, I think down the road in my next home i’d like something like that in an open living area and the separate dedicated cinema room but again depends on what space / rooms you have to work with.

Mentioned on my thread to your post but its long at 6.15m by 3.38m on the screen wall, due to the shape and size it led me to the set up I have, similar to your intentions having a tv for normal / more casual viewing in day time, although in reality the projector is almost always on!

And totally understand re investment / finances, worth bearing in mind then when designing and layout then if you don’t plan to be there long term, god knows what i’ll end up doing when I move down the line with all these holes in the walls and roof :rotfl:

Thanks, I already have a 2 socialising reception rooms in my plans.. the problem is what I want every room to be sociable lol. I want to be able to show off and use the projector with friends and family rather than it just be a little room I go in rarely either by myself or to sit down with people for an experience. Maybe I'm attemtping the impossible and asking too much from a single room TBH.

A lot of this will probably now depend on how far out architect feels we can go. I was quite conservative .. well I thought I was.. last week but all family members think I should be going out a farther metre or two.. (which means a tree dying which I was trying to spare).

Thank you for the dimensions. It gives me a little perspective on how big i need to make this room to try and get 2 functions out of it as yours looks very very good at present.

maybe 4.5x7.5M will be enough to have a bar at one end of the room with some casual seating and a fireplace and the PJ at the other end, with a row of seating in the last 1/2 of the room which gives it a dedicated feel? I do like sitting pretty god damn close to the PJ screen.... I have a 110'' ALR screen I got spare draper react I could use which means I can put seating a bit more close to the screen.

Haha.. I have that issue with my current room. Its absolutely murdered with holes everywhere. Especially from the 8 different TV wall mounted positions over the past 2 years. Feel really bad about that lol. I am trying to be a bit wary as I plan to move on eventually to not destroy the room and make it too bespoke.

For example, if I made this into my dream VR & home theatre dungeon.. i don't think it would be fit for use for many other ppl down the road lol.
 

beechy06

Well-known Member
4.5m x 7.5m would give that extra bit of room so something like that could work, I forget the user but there was a build thread on the forums a couple years back that was similar size with a computer / office section to the back which broke up the room and I could imagine a similar type of thing for your room but a bar area, i’ll see if I can find a link to it
 

beechy06

Well-known Member
Found it:


Looks to be that size you are looking at 7.5x4.5m, good build thread to have a look through although not all pictures seem to be on now
 

kenshingintoki

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4.5m x 7.5m would give that extra bit of room so something like that could work, I forget the user but there was a build thread on the forums a couple years back that was similar size with a computer / office section to the back which broke up the room and I could imagine a similar type of thing for your room but a bar area, i’ll see if I can find a link to it

that sounds perfect if u can find it!! I can basically copy it lol!
 

beechy06

Well-known Member
that sounds perfect if u can find it!! I can basically copy it lol!
Think my post might of overlapped yours, been having another look myself, was bold with the dark colour and ceiling too and it really works:

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kenshingintoki

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Think my post might of overlapped yours, been having another look myself, was bold with the dark colour and ceiling too and it really works:

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perfect!! this is it. Give or take a a metre for a bit more distance between my seating for the tub chairs and fire place.. this looks very very do-able now.

I was thinking for the bar to build in some cabinetry so I can put the projector + speakers in there like a display too.. hard to explain.

i wonder what dimensions his room is.
 

beechy06

Well-known Member
perfect!! this is it. Give or take a a metre for a bit more distance between my seating for the tub chairs and fire place.. this looks very very do-able now.

I was thinking for the bar to build in some cabinetry so I can put the projector + speakers in there like a display too.. hard to explain.

i wonder what dimensions his room is.
Thought that would give you some good ideas! Found dimensions:

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Similar to mine in that its slightly wider at the rear of the room.
 

Triggaaar

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Thanks, I already have a 2 socialising reception rooms in my plans.. the problem is what I want every room to be sociable lol. I want to be able to show off and use the projector with friends and family rather than it just be a little room I go in rarely either by myself or to sit down with people for an experience. Maybe I'm attemtping the impossible and asking too much from a single room TBH.
Yeah I'm not sure you have a clear vision of what you're trying to achieve. There was some property program a while back with Sarah Beeny, where they'd film a family over the course of a week or something, and see how they used their rooms, and try and redesign the house so that all the space got used. You could end up where you have a couple of great rooms, and don't use the others. An overall floor plan, and when you intend to use each room, would be helpful.

While I realise you like he idea of showing off your projector, in the room you're already socialising in, what exactly are you going to put on the projector? I'm thinking that would be more suitable for sport rather than a film, because if it's a film with your black curtains drawn, that's not really socialising any more (while it's on) so you might as well go to another room (which may not otherwise get used).

I know you don't want to pay for two expensive systems, but a nice and big TV in your social room for social viewing doesn't need a fancy sound system, it would be a bit wasted there. That doesn't mean you have to have a soundbar, but you can get a decent social room setup without spending much.
 

kenshingintoki

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Yeah I'm not sure you have a clear vision of what you're trying to achieve. There was some property program a while back with Sarah Beeny, where they'd film a family over the course of a week or something, and see how they used their rooms, and try and redesign the house so that all the space got used. You could end up where you have a couple of great rooms, and don't use the others. An overall floor plan, and when you intend to use each room, would be helpful.

While I realise you like he idea of showing off your projector, in the room you're already socialising in, what exactly are you going to put on the projector? I'm thinking that would be more suitable for sport rather than a film, because if it's a film with your black curtains drawn, that's not really socialising any more (while it's on) so you might as well go to another room (which may not otherwise get used).

I know you don't want to pay for two expensive systems, but a nice and big TV in your social room for social viewing doesn't need a fancy sound system, it would be a bit wasted there. That doesn't mean you have to have a soundbar, but you can get a decent social room setup without spending much.

Sound system will definitely be needed. When I say party, I mean party! So big thumping bass is needed.
This is one of the main driving reasons behind me being adamant I needed a big detached house which was isolated from neighbours noise isolation wise 😂😂

pj will have on sports video games music videos etc when we are having a proper party
 

Triggaaar

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Sound system will definitely be needed.
Yes of course it will, but a sound system for a party with some thumping base doesn't have to be the same system as your cinema rig. I expect you could get a suitable system for the party room for not much money, and a projector and screen too.

pj will have on sports video games music videos etc when we are having a proper party
Yeah that sounds great, but those are different requirements to a high level home cinema.

So it could all be in the same room, but it doesn't have to be. I know you say you don't want to pay for two systems, but a system for your party room needn't cost that much, particularly if you go second hand.

It could depend what you'd use the other rooms for - whether they're being utilised or not. And the size of them. And whether you actually want films in high quality, or if it's only really the party room you want.
 

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