Danny Baker Monkey Royal Baby Tweet

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  1. crashcris

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    Is it at all possible that somebody as intelligent and quick witted as Danny Baker could have been so ignorant as to the offence that would be taken when tweeting a picture of two people holding hands with a dressed up monkey, with the caption "Royal baby leaves hospital"?
    Is the offence taken a case of PC gone mad or is it right that he's been sacked? Does his apology warrant him keeping his job?

    Personally, I think it was incredibly crass and open to misinterpretation, but I don't believe it was his intention to be a racist at all, more likely a dig at all the Royals rather than a dig at Megan Markle's heritage.

    BBC Radio 5 Live host Danny Baker tweets 'racist' Royal Baby monkey image | Daily Mail Online
     
  2. krish

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    as posted in the royal baby thread ...
     
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    Tweet showed bad judgement, but, I don't believe for a second that Danny Baker is racist, and I don't support his firing. A warning should have sufficed.
     
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    For me it's PC gone mad, there again he worked for the BBC.

    He could have posted anything and been sacked with the Liberal luvvies in charge.

    Wrong decision anyone that follows/listens to him knows his sense of humour
     
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    Out of interest, how many similar pictures of monkeys/chimps/apes did he tweet when other Royal babies had been born in the last decade?
     
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  7. krish

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    Would probably have been fired from any media organisation or political party for that matter, whatever their leanings, as it would likely keep going as a "controversy" in the DM and elsewhere, for the clicks. Bad PR. Position untenable. Context or intent be damned.
     
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    I thought it was a bit rough. The poor little fella has just been born.

    As said, it was obviously going to be open to misinterpretation.
     
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    The same BBC that happily let a Nazi on Question Time 33 times
     
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    His picture is racist even if he isn't. It's a long held racist view and oft-applied trope to compare people of black African origin to monkeys. In light of monkey chants towards black players that have happened in football matches in this country this season, and as a huge football fan and sports journalist, he surely would have known that the picture could be misinterpreted very, very easily. Big punishments have been handed down to individual fans and football clubs for racist chanting this season. When put into context, his sacking doesn't surprise me.
     
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    In the interest of balance it has also had members of the far left, or is a case of far right bad and far left good?
     
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    Who?
     
  13. krish

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    and still have a dancer on Strictly who said to his dance partner of Moroccan and Indian heritage, “Oh my God, you look like a P**i.
     
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    Which ever way you look at it, the picture and tweet is incredibly offensive to the Royal couple and Archie. Surely he should have realised this? Isn't he an experienced broadcaster?
     
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    It is so unbelievably clumsy almost to the point of naivety.

    Isn't the mother mixed race? Hasn't she received online abuse from Far Right dimwits?

    It's funny, whenever the subject of male privilege comes up as a topic of debate on here there's plenty of toing and froing. But we rarely seem to discuss White privilege and the complete absence of awareness as to how something you say or do might be interpreted by someone who isn't White.

    And no, it's not just "paranoia" or a "victim complex". This is why people like Farage are so dangerous because he is literally (or dangerously) clueless about what impact his xenophobia has on people whose face doesn't fit.
     
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    I am sure we would all love to have similar jokes posted online about our newborn babies, after all it is only a joke right?
     
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    Oh come on guys, there's no argument against his sacking over this tweet imo. It's offensive on 2 levels, first being that it is a chimp and Harry's wife (what's her name again?) is of mixed race and it's also taking the pee out of the royals. The latter i have no issue with but the BBC is the nations broadcaster and i cannot see how they could have let him get away with a final warning over this tweet. I just cannot understand why he decided to tweet this image and attach that comment. I don't believe Danny Baker is a racist, was he drinking when he decided to post that image? I know he has had a history with the BBC going back to his days on BBC London (Where he was sacked) so it's possible he posted it as an a way of getting the sack on purpose?
    But he's a very smart man and the repercussions on his career would last for ages or possibly years. It will be a long while before anyone would want to sign him up again I think.
    I just can't see why he did it. :facepalm: He's been a bloody fool.
     
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    Personally, I don't think he intended it in a racist fashion, or even considered that it might be taken that way - it was simply a typically unpleasant, snide and obnoxious dig at a young couple and their newborn baby because he happens to dislike the royal family.

    Let's be honest, who in their right mind, in a taxpayer-funded public service broadcasting job, would post something like that if it had occurred to them that it could be construed as being racist? They would have known that their job would be forfeit.
     
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    The clues were there, we just never saw them.

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    It didn't take particularly long for the father of the baby to come back from being caught on video calling a fellow soldier "our little **** friend" (same word used in incident posted about Strictly dancer Anton du Beke towards Laila Rouass). No time at all iirc.
     
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    Its not the same BBC, but you could apply that to a number of companies:
    Volkswagen - the company that drove the Nazi's about during their reign.
    IBM - the company that invented the punch card system for jews in concentration camps...

    To name but a few.

    Words fail me for that... I do not know how people can say these things and not realise what they are saying.

    He may not have intended it to be racist but it is and not seeing how it is racist baffles me. Like many have acknowledged on here, Danny Baker is many things, stupid and naïve are not one of them and not seeing that post as anything as racist is beyond me. As for why he posted it only he knows the answer to that.

    The BBC were left with no choice, as many other companies would have had no choice either.

    I am no royalist but at the same time I have no issue with them either, Meghan Markel has had to put up with a number of offensive comments about her heritage and I think it is only right that steps are taken to show that comments like he made are unwanted.
     
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    Foolish act.

    Something like this probably wouldn't have been acceptable twenty years ago.

    But, the double standard is that Prince Philip has openly displayed racism time and time again... but there are no consequences where he's concerned.

    Here's a list of some of his 'best' comments...

    Prince Philip's greatest gaffes
     
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    Could be worse they could have covered up for a child molester and rapist.







    Ooooh wait they did
     
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    Gary Lineker has put loads of offensive stuff on Twitter, but there’s no way the BBC are going to sack him. IIRC they or he said what he does on Twitter is his personal business. Not that I’m condoning what Danny Baker did.
     
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    And that's the double standards but as a lot his tweets are anti Brexit and anti Brexteers the BBC will support him.

    If your sacking Baker for company standards etc then by the same standards Lineker should go as well.
     
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    The only difference is that Harry has no boss. He's at the top of the social, financial, and power tree and once you get there, you can do anything you like with no consequence. He's playing life on Easy Mode, the pleb rules don't apply to him. Same as Trump.
     
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    Loads of offensive stuff from Mr Lineker? I'd love to see some examples, if you can rustle them up, as a quick google search only shows one, from 2015, regarding England's defence and a bomb in Brussels.
     
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    I do not think Gary Lineker's tweets were considered offensive (I am not swearing by that as I do not use twitter so do not know what he has posted beyond what you noteworthy in the news) I just thought the issue with his posts, specifically about Brexit, were they were impartial and showed biased towards his anti-Brexit stance which goes against BBC standards or ethics.

    So something he may or should be pulled up on but not offensive. Certainly not in the same league as what is being discussed here.

    However if there are offensive tweets he has made then I am a) willing to be corrected b) should be dealt with in the same manner as using Danny Baker using disciplinary or dismissal powers where necessary.
     
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    That's the problem with sanctioning people for causing offence. Everything offends somebody somewhere.
     
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    Didn't there used to be a thread about that? I think it was closed for causing too much offence :D
     
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