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Damaged Hearing Courtesy of YSP-1

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by kmhtkmhtkmht, Sep 8, 2005.

  1. kmhtkmhtkmht

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    I've owned and am proceeding to return the Yamaha YSP-1 cause it's been detrimental to me and my partners hearing.

    After just a couple days of use, maybe cause it's tricking your mind into thinking there is stuff behind you when it actually does work, and now has resulted in my hearing feeling very hollow and uncomfortable.

    I have made appointments for me and my partner at my GP and want to get this checked out, I thought it was just me to start but then when the girlfriend also concurs that it feels like "there's constant water in my ears" then I know it's not just me.
     
  2. Llanowar

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    Sounds creepy! Good luck...strange story, would think they would try it out themselves for a while you should guess?
     
  3. recruit

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    kmht - Are you being serious ?
     
  4. Steve.EX

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    Hmm, i have heard of hairs standing up on the back of your neck, but water behind the eyes? Perhaps Piriton or maybe a spoon in your mouth?
     
  5. kmhtkmhtkmht

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    Nah that's how she describes her ears!

    I describe it as being really Hollow and you have to constantly Pop your Ears.

    I've packed it back up and am using the TV Speakers on the Sagem HD-D56.

    I am being dead serious!
     
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    Whilst I am no fan of the YSP-1, it is far more likely that the pair of you have picked up a minor ear infection of some kind that is totally unrelated to the new speaker. The sensation of having water in the ear is a common one with ear infections / blockage of the eustation tube. The only way you would damage your hearing with a loudspeaker is constantly turning it up too loud, and if you do that then ringing will be the first thing you notice as opposed to water.

    For the record, the YSP-1 does not 'trick' your brain at all. The sound really does come from behind you / beside you due to the fact that it is bounced off the walls. It is sending these sounds out a bit before it would were they travelling down a wire to an actual speaker to allow the sound time to propogate and reflect. Not 100% effective IMO but it's no more likely to damage your hearing than a budgie breaking wind is likely to cause a significant sound pressure wave in a 20 foot room.

    I suggest you get the doc to check your ears out (ear infections can be deeply unpleasant) but I'm sure he'd be as bemused as me to think that a fairly low output speaker could do this to you.

    Gary
     
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    You might be sensitive to phase anomalies. An extreme example of this is listening to headphones with the channels out of phase, this gives me a similar sensation. It is quite likely that one of the ways the YSP-1 generates its surround sound effect is by manipulation of interchannel phase. You can also get phasing effects like this if you have very unequal path lengths for the theoretical reflected sounds.

    As Gary says, it is high sound levels that damage your hearing, and similar effects can be produced by infections, colds etc.

    Bill
     
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    Isn't that something that Captain Archer and the crew used to have problems with every week ?
     
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    kmht - I would be interested to know what Yamaha have to say about the Damage it has caused to you're ears and i presume you are going to speak with them and follow this up as you are quite convinced that it is the speaker that has caused this problem ???
     
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    yes it is. all you need is a Flux Modulator and a phase inverter. then ur sorted.
     
  11. kmhtkmhtkmht

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    Well, I have the appointment with the GP soon so we'll see what comes out of that.

    It go so bad that when people were talking to me I had to read their lips to understand what they were saying.

    I will be contacting Yamaha and seeing what their chat is, and whether this has ever happened before.

    It's a shame really cause the thing looks pretty cool.
     
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    Surely that's a flux capacitor?
     
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    What volume are you playing at? Even at a constant volume of 90 - 95dbs hearing damage can set in and with modern av equipment these levels are easily achievable and the louder you play the more used to it you get.
     
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    It wasn't the Volume at all, I am convinced it was the YSP-1, I played stuff at about 25 - 40 dbs...
     
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    u mean -40 to -20 on the amp right? cos 20db is a whisper.
     
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    So have you seen the doctor yet? I'd really like to know the outcome as I have been considering getting one of these.
     
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    Colour me sceptical. I really don't think that any sort of speaker played at reasonable volumes could 'make' your ears go funny like that. Like GaryW I'm betting on some physical cause - call Dr. House!
     
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    Yeehaaaa!!! It's the Song of the Compo Cowboy...
     
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    no silly a flux capacitor lives on a delorean.


    kmhtkmhtkmht :rotfl: are you for real. duh


    sulis more likely mental than physical
     
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    Hi Km
    Did you return your YSP1
    Where did you get it from as I am looking for a supplier
    Hope your hearing is better
     
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    Guess his Doctor must have a full appointment book ........
     
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    Or a waiting room full of "Mutton" YSP-1 buyers! :rotfl:

    DOCTOR: "Ok, I'm going to have to syringe your ears, but don't worry it's not like an injection",.......... "You won't feel a little prick!"

    kmhtkmhtkmht: "Want a bet!" .......... "Eh? What did you say?"

    DOCTOR: "I said, ... You might squeel a little bit!"

    DOCTOR: "Next,.............. Next, ............... I SAID NEXT!

    ................ Honestly, what a load of old tosh,........ I've heard it all now! ....................... Mind you, that's probably because I have yet to buy my YSP1! :rotfl:
     
  23. Stuart Wright

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    KBDVD, please do not be so distrspectful.
    Could you please not get yourselves into trouble by speaking your mind with the wrong selection of words about what kmhtkmhtkmht is saying?
     
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    Hi Stu, :hiya:

    No offence intended, ..... just having a wee laugh! :D

    My apologees kmhtkmhtkmht. I hope that your hearing problem proves easy to resolve.

    I have a "ringing in my ears" but I just attributed that to being married! :rotfl:

    ps: If you decide to sell your YSP-1 let me know as I might be interested in buying it! :smashin:
     
  25. ijd

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    kbdvd....... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :nono:
     
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    Hello Stuart

    I would have though the direct attack on Yamaha and its products on your Forum was a bigger 'issue' than KBDVD poking fun at someone who says one thing on lots of threads and then does an overnight 360 swivel in lots of others.

    Best regards

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    My exact thought's too, it does seem kind of strange and quite a big accusation towards Yamaha :rolleyes:
     
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    :rotfl: Lol! I was a bit miserable after my kop heros 0-0 with utd but this thread has brought a smile to my face - flipping hysterical :rotfl:
     
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    Thanks Joe & recruit! :smashin:

    You make an excellent point!

    I stand by my apologee to Stu & kmht as I really did not intend to cause any offence, and was just poking a bit of fun at kmht's outrageous claim, but I had thought exactly the same thing myself! :devil: I know that if I were Yamaha UK, I would not be too impressed with seeing a thread on here that was running under such a title. :mad:

    How can a thread entitled "Damaged Hearing Courtesy of YSP-1" be allowed to remain unchallenged? :confused: I would have thought that at very least an "alleged" would need to be added! :lesson:

    I too had spotted the apparent 100% turn-around in kmht's YSP-1 threads, but despite this, the fact remains that he does appear to be totaly sincere in his belief that the YSP-1 is to blame for his hearing problems! ...... Even if everybody else on here probably believes that the chances of this being the case is, erm, ..... how do I put this now? ....... Round, dangly and sounds like a group of young male calves! :D
     
  30. ijd

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    actually the very title of this thread leave avforums wide open to libel, it is as we all now totally unfounded and unjust as well as absolute lunacy, and as there is no proof the said hearing problems were caused by the sound system....well you do the maths,if the claim was not so outragiously funny then it amy well be a differnt murmering going on in this thread
     

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