D300 or D90?

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  1. Farno

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    I have some redundancy money coming my way thanks to the economic down turn :rolleyes:
    Looking at the specs and all the charts in the world i cant seem to see why the D300 costs £380 more am i missing something glaringly obvious?
    I know it does more FPS and has weather seals but anything else major?
    I dont want to squander what money i have been given and would appreciate any constructive comments.

    Can a Mod please move this to the relevant forum, I've just noticed the 'Gear' section.
     
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    Moved :)
     
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    Feature wise I'd say the 51 point autofocus is the main advantage with owning the D300 as opposed to the D90, you also get a lot more of the functionality of the camera on the body as opposed to diving into the menus which is handy.

    Sorry to hear about your redundancy, I'd personally look at the D90 kit it offers most of what the D300 has at a good price.
     
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    I think coming from a D40, the D90 would be ideal. The D300 is a big old lump to lug around , the D90 smaller and lighter. Picture quality I doubt there is any difference between the 2.
     
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    I had the same choice ages ago between D80 and D200. I gather the D300 does have the edge on the D90 for image quality, but yes you're paying for the AF system, frame rate, build and weather sealing.
    The D300 also has more accessible controls.

    I must admit the weather sealing gave me a little more confidence using my D200 in the snow on Monday.

    In your situation, I'd hesitate to suggest a D300, unless you've got an obvious need for the higher frame rate/AF speed.
     
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    The picture quality may be similar, but its what lurks beneath that counts.

    Just glancing at the two i can see there is difference in
    ISO control
    Max shutter speed
    Pop up flash range (m)
    Frames per second
    Memory card use
    use of RAW and TIFF
    Shape and weight.

    One of the big difference is the 51 point matrix (for the D300) and the auto shooting modes (for the D90)

    I would recommend going for the D300 as it's great! But then it's down to the usual costs, expected life and usage, newer models/ technology etc.
     
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    Go and have a hold of both also have a think about what kind of photography you do. I made the decision to go with the D90 as it felt more comfortable to me (I also came from a D40).

    The ISO ability of the D90 is slightly better than that of the D300 from the tests that I have seen; the extra AF points are welcome on the D300 however for me they would only really come into play shooting fast-moving objects (which I don't have a need for).

    Whichever you go for you'll get a great camera. Enjoy. :)
     
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    The D90 has the same image quality as the D300. The plus points for the D300 are faster frame rate, weather sealing and more advanced exposure metering. The plus points for the D90 are better ISO range, a better 'select' button, and its lighter. By far the better option for the price is the D90, its the one I would like out of two.

    Two words - Ken Rockwell. You need to go to his website if you wish to learn about cameras and photography in general. I did, and it changed many of my views. You'll find his reviews of these cameras on there too.
     
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    I could answer this with another two words but I'll be good. :D
     
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    :eek: Who could have anything against Ken Rockwell? What is it you don't like about his views, methods, results??
     
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    Rockwell is so all over the place with his comments at the moment that he's not even funny any more. I think you'll find he's now recommending we all switch to film :rolleyes:

    His articles are thought provoking at times but often littered with badly informed/highly opinionated garbage. As I've said before, buying a camera based on a Rockwell review is like buying a car based on a Jeremy Clarkson roadtest!
     
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    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    I nearly wrote something similar!
     
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    I think we should avoid another Rockwell bashing session and derailing this thread. All it acheives is generating more traffic to his site, which is the main reason he tries to be so controversial I suspect.

    Seriously, I have read some very interesting stuff on his site, but I would NEVER, EVER direct a newbie to it for equipment buying advice!
     
  16. SteveYorks

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    I would, its how I ended up with my D80. But there you go, its horses for courses I suppose.
     
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    D90 kit is £743 in argos and the D300 body only is £978 although it can be found on amazon for £960 making that £217 difference and I did say "about" £200;)
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the D90 come with a lens, take the D90 lens away and if you go by jessops for example we are talking £350. Gotta compare like with like body only comparison in my mind.
     
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    I also said "if you went for the body only":rolleyes:
     
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    Fair do's however for completeness it's another tick in the positive column for the D90 as you get a very well regarded lens with it. :)
     
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    I wasn't recommending either camera as I have no idea which would be better for him just pointing out that the difference in price may not be as much as he thought. It would really depend on whether he wanted the D300 with a lens or not. I think in future I will avoid trying to help anyone on here as it ends up with nit picking
     
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    Apologies if you feel that way; I was adding the 'difference' to the list of positives for the OP.

    All the best,

    Steve
     
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    I quite like what the D90 has over the D300 like HD Video.
     
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    Thanks for the replies.
    I'm looking at body only as i already have the lenses i want.
    I hope to be adding the Sigma 10-20 if I can get it passed the misses as they also owe me my holiday pay which should cover the cost of adding it to my bag.
    I have no need for the higher frame rate but who wouldnt like weather seals? A better AF system would be nice, but coming from a D40 and using manual lenses I dont think i'll need them.
    I shot around 15mm and 200mm and almost nothing in between (odd i know)
    I think a trip to my local shop will see me getting a D90 simple because the extra cost of the D300 doesnt seem justifiable to me.
    I have no use for video

    Ken Rockwell is at best entertaining at worst a very poor place to make a decision on an investment.

    Again thanks for the constructive comments, please feel free to continue to add to this thread as i dont get any money for another few weeks.
     
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    having gone from a D40 to D90 i am very impressed with it. D300 was never really an option due to cost for me.

    D90 is far superior to the D40 (which is still a great starter camera).

    As others have stated, unless the weather sealing and slightly more auto focus points float your boat, there is not a huge reason to pay the extra for the D300 IMHO.
     
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    I would say the highest usable ISO of my D80 is 800 at a push, how does the usable level compare between the D90 and D300?
     
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    You're the first one in the thread to mention that....normally it's the first thing to come up in 'D90' threads! :D

    I haven't even used it on mine yet. :rolleyes:
     
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    Practically the same as I understand it. ISO 1600 on the D90 is perfectly usable IME.
     
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    Here is a shot taken at ISO 3200 on the D90. It was shot in RAW and processed in Lightroom with some noise reduction applied (30 luminance and colour IIRC). There is some noise there if you look at the large size (click on pic) but still very usable. The D300 should be about the same.

    [​IMG]
     
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    thanks for the pic, that is probably the amount of noise I'd expect at ISO800 on my D80 :(
     

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