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Discussion in 'Movie Forum' started by bowenjones, Mar 9, 2003.

  1. bowenjones

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    This is not a rant against customs charges as there have
    been many threads on the subject.
    What I would like to know is how much extra will the
    government and post office charge if I am unlucky
    enough to have my copy of the Beatles Anthology
    intercepted by customs?
    I've pre-ordered it from cd-wow at £32.99 as it was
    the cheapest I could find on the net.
    I've ordered box-sets in the past from various retailers
    and never once been clobbered for tax (I maybe lucky)
    so I haven't a clue what the charges are.
    Oh yes, if anyone else is interested in the above item,
    here's a link....http://www4.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2.php?product_code=4728
     
  2. pete18

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    don't worry mate if you get hit by customs
    cd-wow refund the cost of the customs they are good like that


    from pete
     
  3. bowenjones

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    But would I still have to pay the charges initially before
    claiming a refund?
    I'd just like to have an idea of how much I would be clobbered
    if I was unlucky as there may be times in the future where
    I might be caught out having ordered from another site which
    didn't have the refund policy.
     
  4. pete18

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    i ordered die hard collection for £29.99 and got hit with £9 on top


    from pete
     
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    Thanks Pete.
     
  6. dolph

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    When I got hit on a CD-WOW order I complained straight away, before I could even get myself down to the post office to get my DVD's back CD-WOW had refunded the money into my account!! No proof of payment needed.

    Top service.
     
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    From memory (so it might be a little off) Duty is charged first at 3.5% of the purchase price, then VAT at 17.5% of purchase price plus Duty, and finally a Post Office fee of £3.95.

    Customs and Excise have a web site - and they do explain it somewhere in there.

    Glenn
     
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    I feel customs charges is a good way of bringing extra revenue into this country and it should be charged on all imported goods. I for one don't mind paying the extra as I am getting the film cheaper than shop prices anyway.
     
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    Don't you think that we get taxed enough then?
    80% of our hard earned wages go in either direct
    or indirect taxation.
    The reason that I, and many others, buy from overseas
    retailers is because they are cheaper.
    The reason they are cheaper is because we don't have to
    pay tax on goods under £18.
    So, I am not prepared to pay that little bit extra just so
    the government can waste it on things like an unjustified
    war (sorry about the political comment - just my view of things).
     
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    Dick Donkey
    QUOTE:I feel customs charges is a good way of bringing extra revenue into this country and it should be charged on all imported goods. I for one don't mind paying the extra as I am getting the film cheaper than shop prices anyway.

    Oh i'm sorry i was waiting for the punchline.But seriously what colour is the sky in your world?
    I tried to access the customs website, but when i entered www.bendoverandspreadyourarsecheekswide.co.uk i got a hardcore porn site.
    :mad:
     
  11. dolph

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    Customs charges on DVD's bought from abroad bring no extra revenue into the country - it's already here?

    Buying DVD's from abroad actually sends money OUT of the country.
     
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    This is all a bit unfair. Import duty and VAT are charged on anything you buy - only when you buy in a UK shop it's hidden ie., included in the price you pay. However, when you import stuff -it's payable separately. So it's more obvious - that's all. And clearly, the shipper is entitled to add an admin fee for dealing with this for you.

    There is no doubt that in the UK we are highly taxed when compared to some other places - but typically, these places are 'tax havens' - known for their low indirect taxation - and this is precisely why certain e-tailers choose to base themselves in such places.

    Clearly, if you 'get away with it' - as is the case when the package is under £18 (it wouldn't be economic to collect the small amounts involved) - and, as is the case when the charges are overlooked by the shipper - then you are gaining. But you shouldn't consider duty and VAT as an additional charge - they are just a feature of living in the UK (and many other places). On the contrary - you should consider the non-payment of such charges (when it happens) as a bonus.

    If you don't like the taxation scheme in the UK - emigrate.
     
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    Thank you for that Nigel. There are my sentiments exactly.
     
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    Which is preferable to paying more for inferior products just to keep money in the country.

    Then there's the small matter of some DVDs not being available in this country for weeks and months after their US release date, basically giving the purchaser little choice but to buy outside of the UK.

    In my own view, the exploision of DVD as a consumer product in the UK was partly fuelled by the feeling of being able to 'buck' the system for once with regards to (a) the multi-region enabling of hardware and (b) the personal importing of cheaper/superior software from, predominantly, the US and (c) the synchronous rise in popularity of the Internet and ecommerce.
     
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    Is it not illegal though to import different regional disks?
     
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    No, not for personal use.

    Think about it, if it were illegal to import R1 discs, it would also be illegal for HM Customs & Excise to open your package and charge you import duty on them :)
     
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    Lol... Oh yes so it would. Then again they could go with the one rule for us one rule for them.


    Still on customs charges. I feel you pay your money you take your chances.
     
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    But surely they'd never do that? It would be unfair :rolleyes: :D

    Very true. But it's a bit like doing 35mph in a 30mph zone, you know you could get done for it but you'd still sure as hell moan if/when you do.
     
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    I think you'll find that we're a tiny minority - market research has shown that in excess of 90% of dvd software is purchased from the high street (HMV have over 10% of sales I believe).

    The popularity of dvd as a product is due to price - sub £100 player is a no brainer for most and the dramatic reduction in price of many titles in so called sales has made buying DVDs equivalent to buying CDs.

    The British video industry is concerned about imports from abroad - and have lobbied the gov't regarding certification and unfair competition (no vat). As far as I know the gov't has definately told them that it is not concerned about certification (but will come down hard on people importing kiddy porn and the like). The tax issue we will know about in ealry April when the budget is announced. Gordon Brown has been asked by the EU to abolish the £18 limit (making all imported dvds liable to VAT) - he did not mention anything in the pre budget statement that he was minded to implement this. So fingers crossed. (there is a feeling that it would not be wise to tie up HMC&E in this at a time when asylum seekers / terrorists are the cause of so much angst with Daily Mail readers).

    I've said before that I've been lucky with most of my imports and that the once I got hit nowhere near made up for what I'd saved.
     
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    I got charged the first time I brought any discs in. It turned my bargains into so-so purchases - I could have bought them for the same price in the UK.

    Since then I've always imported discs singlely (sp?). The shipping charges from North America aren't that high.
     
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    Sure, this might be the case now, but I would bet that 90% of the early adopters bought +£400 machines, insisted they were multi-region and imported +50% of their discs from the US.

    It's these early adopters that every new product/lifestyle choice lives or dies by.

    And the problem with the kind of market research you've mentioned is that it's usually funded by high street companies using people in the high street to stop you and ask you the questions... kind of figures what their research findings are likely to be with regards to this question :)

    Check out any of the UKs biggest DVD software magazines, most have equal page space devoted to R1 and R2 release dates and reviews. Also, nearly all hardware mags point out that a budget DVD player that can't easily be multi-region hacked is at a severe disadvantage in the market place.

    Also, most people using progressive scan - as the time of writing at least - must be using non-R2 discs.
     
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    Getting back to getting rid of the £18 "allowance" (if that is the right word!!;) ), it would be interesting to see what would happen to companies like Play and CD-WOW and if they would be able to cope with this.

    On my earlier point about buying DVD's from abroad and this "sending money out" - I personally have no problem with this, I agree that when you can get superior (sometimes not always) DVD's cheaper then do it, I'm certainly no trade balance expert.

    However I'm not certain that the tax imposed by our government is actually the underlying problem, more the general attitude of retailers in this country and their ability to rip us off.

    I for one buy (and will continue to do so) all my DVD's online - and generally from overseas companies (including Play and CD-WOW) as it just doesn't make sense to walk into HNV and buy a DVD at 19.99 that is available for 12.99 on one of the above companies, and probably about a tenner incl. delivery from the States or Australia.
     
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    What I find amazing is that UK DVD film prices have stayed the same since they first came out. £19.99. You would think with higher consumer demand that the prices would drop and yet the only prices that have come down is the price of the players and that's only due to El'cheapo brands jumping on the band wagon once the format had been established.

    So if they can't be bothered to drop the price of the films **** em and lets import at no extra cost. :smashin:
     

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