Hi Definition channels on the following satellites, Hellas 39E - 1 channel Astra 3Q 23.5E - 3 channels Astra 1 at 19.2E - 1 channel Hotbird 13E - 1 channel Atlantic Bird 3 5W - 1 channel Hispasat 30W - 1 channel Sirius 5E - 2 channels Eutelsat 1 channel All channels were free to air - in the clear - except the one on Astra. That needed the card that comes with the Qualitv receiver. 4.2.2 channels Eutelsat 7E - 14 channels Intelsat 20W - 10 channels Search for the text HD on lyngsat, e.g. try on Astra 1 page: http://www.lyngsat.com/astra19.html HDTV receivers currently available in UK (satellitesuperstore, wizardsatellite, etc.): Qualitv (MPEG2 only): http://www.dvdlibrary.co.uk/qualitv qs1080.htm Inverto (MPEG2 only): http://www.inverto.tv/ProductsCategory.asp?CategoryID=58 Reelmedia - soon - (MPEG4 & 2): http://www.reel-multimedia.com/german/index.html Skystar 2 PCI (MPEG4 & 2 - with correct software): http://www.technisat.com/ Supercool receivers to be launched before Q1-2006: Dreambox 8000 (dogs gonads) Inverto MPEG4 Qualitv MPEG 4 Technomate ok, I know Sky will be more convenient for you lounge lizards. But for geeks out there, fun is now! rgds h.