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CRT Still not installed...2 yrs on!!!

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by shaunr, Oct 9, 2003.

  1. shaunr

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    This is a sad state of affairs and i know i spoken to many of you before (all have been extremely helpful), but after having owned my Sony 1272 for nearly 2 years now i still haven't had it installed yet...sad i know.

    The reason i here you ask.... i am not convinced that the quality of CRT (considering size and the recalibration requirements) are worth it over a nice small DLP / new LCD projector.

    I've just returned from a demo of my mates new pride and joy, a SIM2 DLP and whilst i'm inpressed with the size!!, lowish noise and quality of the resolution...the age old mantra rings out..blacks are not black!!..lol

    Please convice me that my 1272 is worth installing and will blow his DLP away : )

    Thanks

    Shaun (Still unsure 2yrs on!)
     
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    Only one way to convinve yourself :D Do it. Otherwise it's a total waste. Surely 90% enjoyment is better than zero :)
     
  3. shaunr

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    True Messiah, although with something that size there's a bit of planning (as opposed to what seems to be pretty much a plug and play solution). I could alway sell i suppose, anyone compared any of the latest LCD / DLP's to a similar CRT??
     
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    Gordon is your man or roland personally if you got it get it installed man! DLP are great but CRT is the Best
     
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  6. shaunr

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    Thanks meep, you're right, this weekend i'm gonna have a play about with it, Maybe i just lost my original enthusiasm but thinking back, the reason i bought it was because i wanted blacks black!

    I've got the Unistrut to mount it (by the way, do you just drill directly through the joist to fit each bolt??), so maybe i should see what it's like first before writing it off..it's going in a spare bedroom anyway.

    The screen is another matter, but i like your diy approach.

    Thanks again!

    Shaun
     
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    Shaun

    I fixed my Unistrut with Coach Bolts.

    These are self-tapping bolts that act like huge screws. (they don't have a nut)

    Having confirmed that the joists were strong enough and well fixed to take the weight, I drilled a small pilot hole and then started screwing in the coach bolts with a troque wrench.

    Once in, there is no way they are coming out!

    As you'll see from my side, I had my projector on the floor for quite some time. This was good as it allowed me get very familiar with the control, allowed me easily move it forward and backwards to optimise the image on teh CRT face etc.

    It's a pain trying to do a full calibration with the control panel above your head!

    Get to know your projector on the floor and then move it up out of the way.

    Peter
     
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    Thanks for the tips (i got an additional remote when i bought it but will still mess around with it on a table before i put it up)

    Cheers,

    Shaun
     
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    I've spent most of the afternoon messing around with my 1272. It's just on the floor but i can't get the Red to line up..it's maxed out. I've been through the manual but i really only wanted to check all was well with it after this amount of time.

    Anyway i've decided i really need some help with this so if experts could PM me with their cost of physical install and configuration of my Sony 1272 i'd be grateful.

    I've got the Unistrut, the a 25 metre BNC to D Connection lead (blagged from work:D ) but still need a screen.


    It's going in a bedroom which i think is just big enough to allow for the throw distance for a 72 inch wide screen.

    Oh yeah i'm in the NE.

    Thanks in advance,

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    I know it's sad replying to your own message but i think the reason why i can't do a rough setup on my 1272 is because it has the Medium CRT Spacers installed. This leads to a couple of questions please;

    1) I plan to use a 6ft 16:9 screen, am i correct in thinking i need Small spacers?

    2) Anyone got any for sale:D


    Thanks chaps,

    Shaun
     
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    Loosen the 4 bolts that hold the red and blue spacers in place and stick two washers behind the outside bolts.

    Have you tried using the zone red adjustment to bring the red in?
     
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    Thanks Roland. No, just the R and B Shift. Could you tell me how i access the Zone convergence please?

    Thanks again,

    Shaun
     
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    Shaun

    Do you have the set-up manual fro your projector?

    This is essential to walk you though the entire set-up procedure.

    Zone convergence is part of the process descrived therein.

    I have the manual fro the 1271 in PDF form (it's quite large so I can't really e-mail it). Do a search online and you might find it (for free or for a small fee).

    If you have no joy, drop me a line and I can send you a copy on CD if you wush.

    Regards

    Peter
     
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    I'd centre the crosshair patterns on the face of each tube then do the washer trick Roland talks about to angle in blue and red.

    There should be a ZONE button on the remote. You do know that the convergence stuff is hidden under the flap at the bottom of the controllers for these?

    Gordon
     
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    Thanks Meep and Gordon.

    I've got the Installation Manual, but have not had chance to print it. It's been a case of doing a bit then walking into another room where my PC is.

    Gordon, i haven't seen anything under a flap (are you referring to the remote control or the actual projector)?


    Thanks again,

    Shaun
     
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    The remote. It has buttons covered up along the bottom of it. If you look at side of remote at bottom you should see an indent that a coin or large flat blade screwdriver could fit in. This flips up the covering to reveal all the geometric convergence buttons. Can't remember if it's the same on the remote in the case.

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    Bottom right corner of the remote.
    If you are using the one on the projector then you will have to take the plasic strippy cover off. Two screws either side of remote.
    you should have two rows of buttons under the numbers and contrast & brightness + -
     
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    A must tool:laugh:
     
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    I'm assuming my flap is missing chaps:confused:

    Are the buttons i'm after under the 'Registration' section,ie Size,Lin,Skew,Bow,Key,Pin and i guess the important Zone one?

    I've managed to do a rough setup now where things are roughly converged ie doesn't look too much like a 3D film without the glasses!!

    Even this looks quite impressive with 'proper' black levels. I've just used a dvd via S-video but i've noted quite visible line structure. Is this where the line doubling side of things comes in? I've got a spare PC to try, am i right in thinking i should be heading to the HCPC forum to get a list of must have software?

    Thanks again to all for your help!

    Cheers,

    Shaun
     

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