1. Join Now

    AVForums.com uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Counter Strike Source Help Required

Discussion in 'PC Gaming & Rigs' started by Hawklord, Oct 8, 2004.

  1. Hawklord

    Hawklord
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2003
    Messages:
    3,432
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Aldershot, Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +260
    After purchasing the HL2 Silver pack I have downloaded everything and I'm now in a position to start playing Counter Strike Source. I had a go for a couple of hours last night and was suitably impressed with the graphics and physics engine along with the gameplay.
    I wasn't however very impressed with the atmoshere generated by the people playing on the severs I played in. Why is it that because your new to counter strike nobody is prepared to give any assistance and all you seem to get is abuse and noob bashing :mad: I feel this game has lots of potential and would be able to give most people a run for their money after learning the ropes but feel that the whole experience is being hampered by the peoples attitudes I have encountered initially.
    Does anyone know of any welcoming servers where good natured people play who are prepared to take time out and make this game an enlightening experience or am I on a lost cause.?

    Does anyone want to host a game (I have 512mb adsl but I'm not sure how many players my system would cope with) or point me to some servers that are more people freindly (if they exist).

    I've never ever experienced this kind of hostility playing multiplayer before and have enjoyed my time playing quakeiii, UT, BHD and joint ops over the years without this kind of problem rearing it's ugly head.

    Maybe I may have to give Counter Strike a miss :thumbsdow
     
  2. Synchronicity

    Synchronicity
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2003
    Messages:
    2,816
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    86
    Ratings:
    +214
    Hmmmm,I downloaded and played last night as well and didnt have any problems.On entering servers I was even anouncing "I AM A NOOB AND PROUD"I was very,very rusty as I havent played this game for about 2 years and was getting slaughtered in the beginning but didnt experience any hostility :confused:

    I played on a few different clan servers for a couple of hours with no hassle and ended up on 1 of the Jolt servers,which had about 20 people in there and was a little hectic to say the least but had a good laugh.TBH there seems to be a lot of "noobs"on last night so perhaps it was a case of some of the old heads losing patients with people calling the game Camper Strike,etc :laugh:

    I felt quite welcomed in some servers,people were even complimenting me on my name,perhaps you should change yours from Priv8t Pile to something more suitable like mine(MingeDribble :smoke: ).

    ( :offtopic: Hawk,have you registered for Joint Ops escalation Beta?Got my e mail this afternoon with the download link but Im stuck in work :suicide: )
     
  3. Hawklord

    Hawklord
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2003
    Messages:
    3,432
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Aldershot, Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +260
    Yes I've been chosen for escallation beta testing- downloading now:D
     
  4. Sinzer

    Sinzer
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2002
    Messages:
    5,789
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +1,107
    It is difficult to recommend servers there are so many.

    I have usually found JOLT to be fairly ok, the best is to try and find a good clan server with regulars, esp if the clan is not the best in the world but plays for fun. It has been so long since I played last that the clan servers I played on no longer exist.
     
  5. Hawklord

    Hawklord
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2003
    Messages:
    3,432
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Aldershot, Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +260
    Anyone fancy meeting up for a game tonight?
     
  6. Synchronicity

    Synchronicity
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2003
    Messages:
    2,816
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    86
    Ratings:
    +214
    Im stuck in work till 9,so will probably be on later for a blast.More likley to be checking out JO Escalations though :cool: (I dont get killed so quickly in that :blush: )
     
  7. AML

    AML
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    4,988
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    86
    Location:
    Tokyo
    Ratings:
    +229
    I was also a bit angry at first coz i kept geting shot and never got any kills.

    Basically hang back, let the noobs rush in ahead of you!

    Experiment with weapons untill you find the best one for you.

    Learn the maps.

    Learn the objectives. (you can always win in more than one way. ie rescue hostages instead of killing all the opponents)

    Ive won without firing a single shot.

    Aim for the head.

    Start off in smaller servers with fewer people. Gives you chance to roam without seeing too many enemys.

    Im sure others can give more advice. It is a hard game, but once you get into it, it becomes addictive.

    Remember, HL2 wont have multyplayer, this is it!
     
  8. Sinzer

    Sinzer
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2002
    Messages:
    5,789
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +1,107
    I can give a bit more advice now I am out of work :)

    As far as what AML says, I agree pretty much 100%

    My tips :-

    Always buy armour if you can afford it.
    If you can only afford armour, say 2000 dollars and below, then an option is don't buy anything and save the money for the next round.

    Types of weapon

    Pistols

    Keep your starting pistol, don't waste money buying the others. As you get better you may want to upgrade and practice with the desert eagle, the biggest pistol, it only has 7 shots but is usually guaranteed take down in two hits.

    Shotguns

    These are limited use, they are good fun (I used to specilise in them) but they are only usuable on close quarter maps. Long range you won't hit diddly with them.

    Machine Guns

    Fairly accurate but low damage, these are good starter weapons, they usually will take quite a few bullets to kill someone, but they are good to get used to the recoil. They excel in low recoil so you can spray your bullets and they will stay fairly close together.

    Rifles

    These are the real meat of the game. They are powerful, very accurate, but you cannot sustain fire with them. Anything above 3 rounds shot in a row and you will be wildly inaccurate. Learn to shoot in small bursts and while crouched. Rifles with scopes can be handy if you want to camp mid-long corridors, but their damage is slightly reduced and they are a little less accurate.

    Snipers

    I wouldn't bother with these for a while, many people call them n00b cannons, but to be a successful sniper you need to be handy with one and pistols.

    Machinegun

    This is a laugh, use if you have the cash and want some fun.

    Remeber this is a strategic team game, try to follow the good players and give them back up.

    Get used to looking at the radar to see who is near you, make a note of people's names you are covering, if you see them die you know someone is near.

    Don't run out in wide spaces, stick to walls and remember to use walk quite often and pause to listen for footsteps.
     
  9. VintageMark

    VintageMark
    Standard Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2001
    Messages:
    160
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Location:
    Bristol
    Ratings:
    +0
    Thanks for the tips... I am a complete CS novice and currently finding things very tough!

    Any sites cover the basics? I've looked for in game help but cant seem to find any...

    How does the cash work? Where do I get it?

    So far each game seems to last 30-60secs followed by either 'terrorists' or 'CT' win... is it always that quick?

    Many thanks,

    Mark.
     
  10. Hawklord

    Hawklord
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2003
    Messages:
    3,432
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Aldershot, Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +260
    Yeh is there a online manual to explain things as it's complete guess work on my part too. I'm even finding it hard distinguishing who's freind or foe and by the time I've decided I'm hitting the ground dead:(
     
  11. Daneel

    Daneel
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2002
    Messages:
    2,822
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    68
    Location:
    London
    Ratings:
    +26
    If you come to css.arsclan.net and say you know me you should be treated well (I'm an admin there) :)

    Look for players with an [Ars] tag, tell them you are new and they should give you some tips. If you can hang on I'll teach you myself but I'm out of the country for the next few days.

    That server is in the US so you will probably ping 125-150 but as you are new it won't make a huge difference.
     
  12. General Panic

    General Panic
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2003
    Messages:
    721
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Scotland
    Ratings:
    +18
    Hawklord. Have you tried the DOD source as well? From experience newbies are treated a lot more friendlier on Dod servers rather than CS one's. I haven't played CS in years due to the uncoperative nature of experienced players and have been Dod'ing ever since , although it is a different sort of gameplay admittedly.
    Can i ask as well when you signed up to Halflife2 , will you actually get the Halflife disks sent through to on release or is this a completly disk free service from Steam?
    I ask as i seem to re-install my system every 6 months or so and would need the cd's or dvd to hand so i thought i may need to get the retail version to ensure this.
    If you get everything posted out to you come the release date i think i'll sign up to the Gold package when i get home just to play DOD on source.

    Cheers
    Panic
     
  13. Hawklord

    Hawklord
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2003
    Messages:
    3,432
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Aldershot, Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +260
    You don't get any discs but i will just take a back up of all the files on my hd when it's all installed which will save having to dl the 6 gb I currently have. DOD source is not yet available to play but is installed on my system. It will be unlocked when released proper. If you get the gold pack all the other items apart from the software (which you have to dl) will be sent to you but will take 6-8 weeks:(
    If you don't want to wait get it over steam but if you can wait I'd advise you wait for the retail version. more info here:-

    http://www.steampowered.com/?area=news
     
  14. General Panic

    General Panic
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2003
    Messages:
    721
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Scotland
    Ratings:
    +18
    Thanks for the quick reply. If it's only CS source available just now i think i will wait for the retail release and be patient. Got Call of Duty available to keep me going meantime anyway.
     
  15. Mr.D

    Mr.D
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2000
    Messages:
    11,053
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Ratings:
    +1,130
    If someone is giving you hassle just ignore it. This is a game its supposed to be fun if someone playing on an open server is bragging and namecalling then chances are they will be about 12 years old.

    Have a laugh if someone else isn't thats there problem...wind them up if you feel like having more of a laugh but be respectful to other players and don't ruin the game.
     
  16. bossc@

    bossc@
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2001
    Messages:
    1,096
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Ratings:
    +236
    You could try www.dvf.org.uk, its the resident DVD Forums clan server. Register on the forums and ask for advice. Its a server thats been on the go for quite a while and its main aim is for fun play, although there are some very good players on there. Very good adminning and banter.
     
  17. Sinzer

    Sinzer
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2002
    Messages:
    5,789
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +1,107
    Have added the server to my favourites will take a look later :)
     
  18. AML

    AML
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    4,988
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    86
    Location:
    Tokyo
    Ratings:
    +229
    Does anyone know where to get good "spray paint" badges for CS source?
     
  19. Ethics Gradient

    Ethics Gradient
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2003
    Messages:
    3,680
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    aka Billy Science - Suni ojna Tas
    Ratings:
    +432
    Biggest tip for CS ----- Learn to use sound.

    Load up maps offline on your own a couple of times and learn where:

    - start points are
    - Hostage rescue points
    - Bomb plant targets

    Run around the map from each start point and spot the routes to and from the target locations - so you know where to go yourself ..... and also where your enemy is comming from.

    Always be aware that CS doesn't play like Quake - there are no respawns , health packs etc - you get shot you stay shot...... this means that running around like a loon = spending alot of time dead watching others play.

    When you are familiar with the map layouts - start to watch other players and where they go ... note down the most used routes, the regularly well defended routes and hiding spots.
    Look behind boxes and into corners when u move and always cover your back.

    There will be very good players about, but in general, even long time players make silly mistakes you can capitalise on. Players who have been running around for 6mnts still don't always cotton on to using the sounds of gun fire , footsteps , ladders and surfaces to locate hostiles.
    On most maps plenty of players will run around like mental lemmings - check your radar to be sure its not a team mate and then open up as you guage their footsteps comming to the corner or doorway and let them run straight into your fire.

    Learn the times it takes you to travel from the start to mid points on the map ------ work out at which points you will start to incounter enemies ... so you know how far you can run before haveing to take care and cover....... that way you can gain ground quickly with low risk and be prepared and ready to shoot down the enemies careless front runners.

    The site I belong to no doubt has its source servers up, but I am out of the country untill next weekend...... so no dl'ds for me till I get back :(

    Avoid the big public servers, Jolt have their own public servers ( avoid ) but host clan servers that are often public ( better option ).
    If you go on the public servers of big hosters you will encounter the worst kind of net trash - silly little boys swearing , shouting cheat , team wounding and gernerally messing up the games ............. this is what puts most people off CS ..... and why I only play on our own servers usually.

    If anyone is still struggling with learning the ropes when I am back from working abroad next weekend ... and I have dl'd HL2 source retail .... I will be happy to give a few players a guided tour around the CS tips and tactics in game during the odd evening.

    some of the nicks I play under:
    Simulacrum Dei
    Just Read the Instructions
    Ethics Gradient

    Offical Nick: Rmag
     
  20. MRJAZZ

    MRJAZZ
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    Ethics Gradient,

    thanks for the great advice! :) I'd love to play with ya. :D
     
  21. Sinzer

    Sinzer
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2002
    Messages:
    5,789
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +1,107
    Might be a good time to get an Avforums game up :)
     
  22. Munkey Boy

    Munkey Boy
    Distinguished Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2003
    Messages:
    16,559
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Manchester
    Ratings:
    +4,340
    :smashin: Sounds like a plan. :thumbsup:
     
  23. Mr.D

    Mr.D
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2000
    Messages:
    11,053
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Ratings:
    +1,130
    count me in
     
  24. pmccurdy

    pmccurdy
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    Try also evoclan's server, cant remember the IP, goto www.evoclan.net

    They seem like nice ppl and am sure they wont be yelling "NOOB, etc"

    If you see me on, will give advice no probs, my handle is GraffiX,
    use to run my own clan years ago :D CS beta 4 hehe
     
  25. Hawklord

    Hawklord
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2003
    Messages:
    3,432
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Aldershot, Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +260
    I could probably host a small match tonight but I've only got 512 adsl so don't know how many players my system could handle. Other spec's are A64 3500+, 2 GB PC3200 memory so probably up to the job but not sure my bandwidth is enough:(
    Let me know I'll be playing tonight whatever so If your likely to be around my tag is Priv8pile. Should we prefix our names with AvF to identify us and make it easier to find ppl?
     
  26. Ethics Gradient

    Ethics Gradient
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2003
    Messages:
    3,680
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    aka Billy Science - Suni ojna Tas
    Ratings:
    +432
    You'll struggle playing and hosting more than 4 or 5 people - especially with source as the demands on your system will be far more than normal cs.
    Not sure on packet size / sec for source - but the big killer is you playing and hosting at the same time. It will lag, but tbh for a few new to CS players to run around and familiarise themselves with the maps and layouts its fine ..... plus you can have a good chat over voice comms ;)
    I used to host and play a server on 512k for 3 or 4 people to demo some of my Beta maps to get feed back - wouldn't want to play seriously ... but for fun its fine.
    I will be upgrading considerably to start map compiling for source ..... texture lighting is seriously going to take time - considering on a +2500 it can take 2hrs to full compile a normal CS map ;)

    PS: works messed up in Paris due to another departments failure to complete on time ...... so I might be home tommorrow to start DL'ing and ready to play Fri evening :clap:
     
  27. Sinzer

    Sinzer
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2002
    Messages:
    5,789
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +1,107
    You need about 512K upload to support 14 players, about 35.6K is what they recommend. Also I agree you will need to run a dedicated server really.

    I will play as [AvF]Sinzer and will be about various servers, if any can suggest a server to all congregate on that would be the best idea :)

    Everytime i look at the DVF server it is always empty :( although that may not be a bad thing :)
     
  28. Hawklord

    Hawklord
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2003
    Messages:
    3,432
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Aldershot, Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +260
    I haven't quite worked out how to search for people and servers can someone enlighten me :lease:
     
  29. Sinzer

    Sinzer
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    May 25, 2002
    Messages:
    5,789
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    136
    Ratings:
    +1,107
    Right click on the steam icon and go to friends, you can then search by name etc.

    My nickname is Sinzer :)
     
  30. Hawklord

    Hawklord
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2003
    Messages:
    3,432
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Aldershot, Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +260
    There are lots of sinzers and there is no field for nicknames :confused:
    I have added a sinzer to my friends I hope it's you lol :blush:
     

Share This Page

Loading...