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Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by bluesilver, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. bluesilver

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    Hi,

    I've been looking at this forums for a while and this is the place that convinced me to get a projector in the first place, so now I'm the proud owner of the Panasonic AE700 which is really really good. Not really upto the purpose built home cinema rooms like some people here have, just the lounge.

    Anyway.
    I'm thinking of getting an hdmi dvd player to hook upto the pj to get the most out of it. I had a professional come in to wire the pj and surround kit up and he used S-vhs leads as he said that the difference between that and scart would be tiny. My dvd player doesn't have composite connections which I think would have been the best.

    So my question (eventually) is this. Am I losing out much quality by using s-vhs leads compared to scart and would the quality of using hdmi be hugely different? And if it would be different, what would be the best dvd player that also plays divx?

    hope people can help with all these questions!
     
  2. Sigismund

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    Hi bluesilver. :)

    I also own a Panny AE700, and yo're right... it is a good PJ. After a great deal of hard work refurbishing our house I will have a dedicated home theatre room... and I can't wait! :cool:

    As for your questions - S Video is a step down from RGB, which can be utilized by using a scart lead, so unfortunately you could very well be missing out on a bit of quality, especially when using your PJ. :(

    I think you mean component connections there - composite is the single, yellow-headed lead. Component leads are the three 75 Ohm, red, green and blue headed leads commonly used with PJs. :)

    In my experience, RGB through scart will (depending on the source, of course) generally give a slightly "better" image than S Video. As for HDMI, well, that depends! I've used HDMI from Panasonic S97 and Philips DVP9000 DVD players and the image I get from the AE700 is superb and very "clean". The Philips is a bit awkward to use, but has the benefit of being a very good CD player as well as being able to play SACDs. The Panasonic S97 - if you can find one - is a pretty poor CD player, but does play DVD-Audio discs. The nice thing about the S97 is that it is relatively easy to set up, whilst the Philips could really do with a firmware update.

    There are also Samsung HDMI players, but I have no experience of those, and the Oppo 791 DVD player that gets excellent reviews. Having written all that... I am, sadly, completely ignorant about DivX... although I think I'm right in saying the Philips plays this format...

    If there's anything else I can be of help with just ask. ;)

    All the best mate,

    Mark
     
  3. hornydragon

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    well whgat a wonderful world we live in...............How much were you charged for this pearl of wisdom? S-video is a 2 part video signal, Scart is a cable BIG difference scart is capable of carrying Composite, S-video (Y/C), Component (Y PbPr), RGBcvS (RGB scart). composite is the worst PQ, RGBcvS is much better, as is component (which you should be using for DVD)

    As for HDMI i personally thing it is wasted on DVD an SD format but it comes down to implementation, i prefer an older high quality component player to a new fangled HDMI player which is basiclyy marketing BS to get you buy a new DVD player and until you spend £500+ denon 3910 Arcam DV79 Pioneer 868i etc i would waste my money on HDMI but use component something like a denon 2200, 2900 HK DVD 25/30 secondhand or even a new (but in my mind inferior) HK DVD22 can be had for £140 from pixmania etc
     
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    I have a TV which came with a scart able. However, I have only ever seen the scrats on the playstation before where it has teh three coloured wires seperately. Will I still get the same quality when I connect my DVD player to my TV, as the scart lead only has one black connection. I am guessing it is an 'all in one' type cable but would like to make sure.
     
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    whoa hang on, scart is cable capable of carrying compsoite video, S-video RGB+S and component video (rare) as well as sound and data the yellow cable that came with your playstaion is composite the lowest PQ RGB via scart (actuslly RGBcvS) is the best for DVD to TV's without component Y PbPr connections, similary for Set top boxes sky etc and Consoles (need to buy aftermarket Scart RGB leads for consoles
     
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    I think its the Playstation SCART 'dongle' you are refering to....if so, that take a COMPOSITE video signal, plus L and R audio and feed them into a SCART socket.

    That is quite a bit inferior to using a fully-wired SCART lead between 2 RGB-SCART enabled devices.
     
  7. bluesilver

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    wow, thanks for the replies.

    as for how much, well, probably best I break the costs down.
    I wanted the sky box and 2 dvd players (one plays divx but not copied dvd's and one plays copied dvd's but not divx). Yeah, it would have been better to get one that plays them all. Didn't happen that way tho.

    The projector is about 15ft down the room from my amp, sky box, dvd players and tv. My speakers are in a square formation starting with the 2 fronts and centre at the front next to the tv, the two rear surrounds about 15 ft further back and two other big speakers under my rears (pretty much in line with the pj).

    I went with this configuration because I've found that having 2 big speakers at the back making a square fills out the concert dvd's far better than just having 2 big front speakers.

    So, to have all the speaker cables run around the room and s-vhs cables from the skybox and dvd players run to the projector (also under the carpet) and it taking about 8 hours, cost £700.

    I did go to the local specialist audio shop and get a price form them and that was £350 for scarts) + labour at £30 an hour and this didn't include wiring all my speakers under the carpet. It roughly would have cost about the same.
    And this other guy was recommended.

    I'm now getting ready to cry because I have a feeling people are going to tell me I was mightily ripped off and it should have been done in a totally different way and cost me a fraction of the price.
     
  8. hornydragon

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    how long is the cable between current DVD player and PJ?
     
  9. bluesilver

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    the lead is about 15 meters by the time it goes around the right hand side of the room
     
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    PM joeF for a quote for a 15m HDMI cable...................but a few months ago a 20m cable was £800+ from most manufacturers that had managed to make one
     
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    £800...!!!!!!

    probably cheaper to redecorate and move the kit nearer the pj!!

    thanks for all the info everyone.
     

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