Confused over which plasma? 1080P

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sparkiUK

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I really need some advice, the more i read this forum the more confused i get, so any help would be appreciated. Here's where I'm at. I currently have a Sony 32" CRT, and want to upgrade to a 40/42" plasma or LCD. Probably plasma! I watch regular Sky + but will get SKY HD in the coming months, and i also play XBOX 360. Don't watch many DVD's but just have a regular DVD player.

So I looked at the Samsung LE40M86BD and loved the picture, screen etc but wasn't impressed by watching regular Sky programming (non HD), all looked blotchy, though better than the other LCD's i looked at. So moving towards Plasma because of this, it watching regylar SD programming. Is that wise?

I'm looking at 1080p mainly due to the Xbox 360, but realise there is a premium price to pay for this, baring in mind that the xbox is the only input i have at 1080p, Sky HD is 1080i i gather. Is 1080p worth the extra and if so, should i go for a proper 1920 x 1080 resolution. Do you notice the difference?

So confused as to what to look at. Budget is no more than £1000. So 1080p or not, if so which plasma do you advise, if not, which plasma.

Thanks guys, advice would be really appreciated.
 
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ProjectorDreams

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I would not go for a plasma fewer are being made in fact sony have stopped making them completely why do you want a plasma! Some 1080p special the lower budget ones dont do a great job at standard definition thats why the one you saw did not look great.
I suggest you look at the new samsung range again the feed of sky you saw might have been split to 30 odd sets thats why it did not look great.Samsung sets are not to pricey great 1080p panals great with standard deff and freeveiw is in there to,Any way goodluck!
 

HelloMoto

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I'm kind of in the same situation but I've been looking at the Panasonic TH-42PX70 (under £1000) or going up market for the Pioneer PDP428XD (£1500+)

The Panasonic TH-42PX70 gets good write ups though, and on a screen below 42" you won't see the 1080P difference unless you are Eagle Eye Action Man apparently.

Your eye is best to test though, go see them in action.
 
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ProjectorDreams

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I'm kind of in the same situation but I've been looking at the Panasonic TH-42PX70 (under £1000) or going up market for the Pioneer PDP428XD (£1500+)

The Panasonic TH-42PX70 gets good write ups though, and on a screen below 42" you won't see the 1080P difference unless you are Eagle Eye Action Man apparently.

Your eye is best to test though, go see them in action.

Think is you will see a difference when a HD camera has been used between 720 1080 but that a rarity at the moment
 

dean999

Active Member
I would not go for a plasma fewer are being made in fact sony have stopped making them completely why do you want a plasma! Some 1080p special the lower budget ones dont do a great job at standard definition thats why the one you saw did not look great.
I suggest you look at the new samsung range again the feed of sky you saw might have been split to 30 odd sets thats why it did not look great.Samsung sets are not to pricey great 1080p panals great with standard deff and freeveiw is in there to,Any way goodluck!

pioneer,toshiba,samsung,sharp, panasonic,lg & toshiba still make plasmas.
pioneer makes high quality plasmas only- no lcd for them.
plasmas are great for watching movies due to their filmlike quality and excellent contrast ratios not to mention 3ms or faster response rates.

lcds are lighter but lack the above. if u r into gaming then maybe an lcd will do.
 
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ProjectorDreams

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pioneer,toshiba,samsung,sharp, panasonic,lg & toshiba still make plasmas.
pioneer makes high quality plasmas only- no lcd for them.
plasmas are great for watching movies due to their filmlike quality and excellent contrast ratios not to mention 3ms or faster response rates.

lcds are lighter but lack the above. if u r into gaming then maybe an lcd will do.

Yeah but its for his 360 so lcd would excel plasma in this area !
 
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ProjectorDreams

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pioneer,toshiba,samsung,sharp, panasonic,lg & toshiba still make plasmas.
pioneer makes high quality plasmas only- no lcd for them.
plasmas are great for watching movies due to their filmlike quality and excellent contrast ratios not to mention 3ms or faster response rates.

lcds are lighter but lack the above. if u r into gaming then maybe an lcd will do.

Samsung sharp toshiba lg and panasonic DO make lcds.....! and pioneer have lcd coming out next year
 
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sparkiUK

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Thanks for replies so far, I did as i mentioned test out the Samsung LE40M86BD which is 1080p, but looked poor on standard Sky box (non HD); signal was not split between 30 odd tv's, just for the Samsung, though signal quality was poor i noticed so maybe not a fair test. Bearing in mind most of my viewing will probably be non hd source, except the odd HD channel and Xbox, good motion handling and SD signal handling is important to me.

The other option i'm looking at is the panasonic TH-42PZ70, 1080p plasma, but not been able to compare is with the Samsung, and it's not 1920 x 1080 resolution, hence the reason i'm confused about which way to go, and which set or alternatives.

I will play xbox 360 on it, but most of the time the TV is for TV viewing, not gaming
 

dean999

Active Member
the panasonic range pv & px series have been awarded EISA recognition.
they r the best mid range plasma from all the reading i have done and also a friend of mine liked them so much he bought one & then another panny a couple of weeks later. he has sky sd and it looks good on a 42" panel.

u will notice a difference between 720p & 1080p at 50" and above.

samsungs have reliability issues- check out some of the posts in av forums.

i spoke to a sales asst for a large dept store and he confirmed the problem with samsungs- he hadto return 4 sets.( i am aunable to divulge the name of the store - do not want any legal hassle).

hope this helps
 
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sparkiUK

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the panasonic range pv & px series have been awarded EISA recognition.
they r the best mid range plasma from all the reading i have done and also a friend of mine liked them so much he bought one & then another panny a couple of weeks later. he has sky sd and it looks good on a 42" panel.

u will notice a difference between 720p & 1080p at 50" and above.

samsungs have reliability issues- check out some of the posts in av forums.

i spoke to a sales asst for a large dept store and he confirmed the problem with samsungs- he hadto return 4 sets.( i am aunable to divulge the name of the store - do not want any legal hassle).

hope this helps
So are you saying 1080p is better on 50", but for 42" i won't really notice the difference?
 

dean999

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The other option i'm looking at is the panasonic TH-42PZ70, 1080p plasma, but not been able to compare is with the Samsung, and it's not 1920 x 1080 resolution, hence the reason i'm confused about which way to go, and which set or alternatives.

I will play xbox 360 on it, but most of the time the TV is for TV viewing, not gaming

the panny pz series are 1920X1080p-- i hope i have not misunderstood u.
i have seen the panny pz 50" demoed at martin dawes using a panny dmp bd10 blu ray player -they were showing casino royale-- the clarity & detail was unreal- i thought i was there- even at 10 inches or less from the screen the picture was crystal. they sell it for £3200 in store with cabinet. i have seen it cheaper on the net at around £2500 for the 50"
 
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sparkiUK

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Thanks for that, but i only have a budget of £1000. I guess i also need scart connections for my current Sky box, before i upgrade to Sky HD, plus by DVD player and i don' think the panasonic TH-42PZ70 has scart inputs.

So confused it's madness
 

dean999

Active Member
So are you saying 1080p is better on 50", but for 42" i won't really notice the difference?

unless you have bionic vision.

the 50" creates a film like feeling compared to the 42". i have seen them side by side. if u r going to buy and keep for a long time ( 5yrs at least) then IMO
50 is better than 42. i ssume u will be at least 9 or more feet away from the tv. once u feed a high def source into it u will not look back- i speak from own personal experince and i have a hd projector & a panny dmp bd10 blu ray aspart of my home theatre set up. so a 50 isworth it if u use it daily and budget allows.:thumbsup:
 

GAS28

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Of course the pz70 has scarts.
You do not need 1080p with a 42" as it will be hard to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p at normal viewing distances and SD will look worse. At your budget I would recommend the px70 which is a great TV for the price.
 

dean999

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Thanks for that, but i only have a budget of £1000. I guess i also need scart connections for my current Sky box, before i upgrade to Sky HD, plus by DVD player and i don' think the panasonic TH-42PZ70 has scart inputs.

So confused it's madness

the madness gets worse when u get upgrade-itis:rotfl::eek:.

the px series has scarts. the pz series has 2 scart according to amazon.co.uk.
they are selling the 42 pz for £2140 delivered.
 
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sparkiUK

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So it seems you would both agree to go for the Panasonic TH-42PX70 over the Samsung LE40M86BD? Both similar price, both 1080p though samsung as 'true' resolution. Panasonic will be better for SD signal, and motion? What about playing the Xbox 360? Still the panasonic?
 
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ProjectorDreams

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If you go for plasma you will have issues with screen burn on 360:thumbsdow
 

GAS28

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ProjectorDreams said:
If you go for plasma you will have issues with screen burn on 360

Not really. Might have a little bit of retention but that isn't noticable when watching tv or a movie and it goes away quickly. I play the ps3 for hours on my px70 and there is no burn in.

ProjectorDreams said:
and pioneer have lcd coming out next year
No they don't...
 

Bumtious

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Another thread with a load of balony and inacurarate informantion.

Read this re 1080p

Screen burn does not happen with the latest sets, retention slightly maybe.

There is zero retention or burn with the latest pio's but they are out of your price bracket.

The Panny is px70 is a reasonable bet at your price.

Dont get suckered into to the 1080p thing.

At sizes below 70" its hard to see, (read the article) and you need decent processing to do it at the cheaper sets just dont do it well especially the LCD's.
 
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sparkiUK

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I have to say I'm leaning towards the Panosonic PX70, seeing as screen burn will be minimal, i can play xbox 360 on it without noticing a difference vs lcd, SD viewing will be comparable to my CRT????? and it's 1080p for when i really need it. Does that all add up??

Only 1,024 x 768 resolution though, is that a problem and are the input connections sufficient for what i need?
 

Bumtious

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I have to say I'm leaning towards the Panosonic PX70, seeing as screen burn will be minimal, i can play xbox 360 on it without noticing a difference vs lcd, SD viewing will be comparable to my CRT????? and it's 1080p for when i really need it. Does that all add up??

Only 1,024 x 768 resolution though, is that a problem and are the input connections sufficient for what i need?

No it is not, re sesolution read the article above re 1080p.

Connections should be sufficient.
 

GAS28

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I have to say I'm leaning towards the Panosonic PX70, seeing as screen burn will be minimal, i can play xbox 360 on it without noticing a difference vs lcd, SD viewing will be comparable to my CRT????? and it's 1080p for when i really need it. Does that all add up??

Only 1,024 x 768 resolution though, is that a problem and are the input connections sufficient for what i need?

It's not 1080p it's 720p but it can receive a 1080p signal. SD viewing will be good but I have yet to see a flat screen match a CRT for SD.
 

badass chris

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If you have £1000 and you want 1080p then you really don't have a choice, you have to go lcd, and from what i have read the m87 is the 1 to go for, bare in mind there will come a time in your new telly's life when SD will be a thing of the past. oh and no matter what tv you buy it will look no where near as good on SD as a CRT you will just have to put up with that I'm afraid.
 

GAS28

Active Member
If you have £1000 and you want 1080p then you really don't have a choice, you have to go lcd, and from what i have read the m87 is the 1 to go for, bare in mind there will come a time in your new telly's life when SD will be a thing of the past. oh and no matter what tv you buy it will look no where near as good on SD as a CRT you will just have to put up with that I'm afraid.

Didn't you read this thread. This guy doesn't need 1080p. BTW I would guess it will at least be another 5 years before HD becomes the norm, and even then can only imagine it being broadcast in 720p/1080i
 

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