Was all ready to buy the 875 to go with my kef 5005, until i spoke to my local specialist store. He recommended the 3808, which i suppose he would as he does not stock the 875. He mentioned the longevity factor of onkyo and the fact that Denon had been around for years and with potential things like repairs, spares etc could be an issue with Onkyo. He also mentioned about the fact that the 875 is a bit overspeced for its price and is cautious about its staying power. he also mentioned the 875 gets very hot. I now don't know what to do. The cost issue is not really an issue for me. i just want the best one. Please help, what do i go for, and why not go for the 875 ?