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Component Cable (where can I buy some)

Discussion in 'Cables & Switches' started by Cambo, Apr 8, 2003.

  1. Cambo

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    Had a look in CPC and RS today, trying to find good quality 3 Core component video cable, but to no avail.
    I want to make my own cable up in an effort to save money on the high prices quoted by Supradirect etc...
    Yes - I know the prices are high for a reason, but surely someone has come across GOOD quality cable at a REASONABLE price.
    Looking for 3 core 75 Ohm silver plated OFC double screened cable. Shot in the dark, but if no-one here knows then theres no sense looking elsewhere!
    Would consider buying a 100M reel if some others required component cables made up.
    Heres hopeing:rolleyes:
     
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    I went to CPC and bought the 5m cheapy component cable (about £5) and the more expensive 10m (£33) and couldn't tell the difference in quality.

    I also made up some 10m cables using Maplin conectors (£2 each = £12) and still couldn't tell the difference.

    They were used between an HT1000 and Toshiba SD520e.

    Gary.
     
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    You could always go for 3 single core cables rather than a combined 3 core.

    I was going to make some component cables using the Van Damme 75ohm stuff, but VDC Trading's ready-made ones aren't more much expensive, so I went for them (one each of red, green and blue).

    If you wanted that single cable look, you could always slip them into an expanded plastic sleeve.

    Regards
     
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    Give X3ELS a PM and ask him about his nice cables.

    True 75ohm phonos.

    :D
     
  6. Mark Grant

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    Hello Cambo,

    I have single core cable of the type you are looking for.
    RG6 size solid core, silver plated OFC copper.
    Three lengths would make something very similar ;) ;) to this one
    Not saying identical, but very similar ;) ;)


    A ready made Solid Silver Component cable to consider would be Homegrown Audio Expensive ! but could be excellent.

    If you are looking for something cheap and good quality then three lengths of Belden 1694A or Canford SDV terminated with Canare phonos would be ideal.

    Another one would be Belden 7710A, not seen any for sale in UK, but not looked too hard. 3 cores of 1694A, also 4, 5 and 10 core available :eek:


    Another one is Belden 1695A, some consider it 'better' than 1694A, but costs twice as much. (teflon)

    What length cable are you looking for?

    There are many places in USA that do 7710A cables cheap, might be the cheapest high quality option.

    The RG6 size Belden coax is considered better than RG59 Belden 1505A for video use.

    Mark.
     
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    Many thanks for your advice and help all.
    Been hunting through the net and indeed, I've been considering the Belden cables.
    I don't want to skimp on the cables, but I'm a telecommunications engineer by trade and believe I should be able to source and terminate the cables myself - thus saving myself money.
    The right cable is important and the above posts and links have been excellent for info on this.
    In answer to your question Mark, I am looking for an eight meter run and would be interested in a price for the cable and six connectors. The cable you have sounds good.
    Cheers fer now.
    Cameron.
     
  9. Mark Grant

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    Hello Cameron,

    The connectors are just as important as the cable.
    You need the Canare phonos if you want the best.

    The connectors are not too expensive, but the crimp tool and cable stripper cost a fair bit.

    As far as I know only X3ELS and myself have the Canare tools, unless everyone else is keeping quiet ;)

    I will send you a PM,

    Thanks,

    Mark.
     
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    I'm tempted to buy a set provided I can find a supplier.

    Where did you source yours from?
     
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    Hello Retro,

    I imported my Canare crimp die and TS100 stripper from USA a year or two ago, when a guy on the forum from Cumbria or somewhere had been going on about just how good the canare connectors are.
    Nic was spot on, as usual :D :D

    You can use a cheap crimp handle from CPC, (not sure of part number, but could find out) you just need to buy the Canare Die and stripper. Stripper was around $100, but got stung for import duty and VAT.

    Remember to decide on either the RG59 or RG6 size cable dies, as the dies are about £70 each if I remember correctly. A bit costly to have both. Choose carefully as there are many dies for different cables, but one of them fits most RG6 size Belden cable.

    You will find part numbers on canare site.

    Have you asked Elliot where he buys his canare tools from ?
    maybe its a secret ;)

    I searched for prices of that 7710A cable, USA prices are around $1500 a reel, so UK price will probably be £1500, so don't think I will be buying a reel ! Hate to think how much the 10 core cable would cost in UK.

    Sure you will find what you are looking for.

    Mark.
     
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    True, but it's what that reason is which is the cause of some debate.

    :) :)
     
  13. Cambo

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    MikeK,
    I think as long as you have a good quality OFC copper cable you're flying. That’s why I resent paying through the nose for 'named' cables. There is a danger however in buying poorly made cable with inferior dielectric and poor screening due to the losses. However, that being said you really do have to have a crap, or badly terminated, cable to suffer detrimental losses in cables fewer than 30 meters.
    The other stipulation I required was silver plated copper cable. This was simply for 'longitivity' purposes.
    Check out this link. It may clarify things...

    http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/interconnects/ComponentVideoCables.php
     
  14. Cambo

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    P.S. Cheers Mark for all your help.
    Look forward to getting the cable.
     
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    Cambo

    My remark was a tongue-in-cheek one, meant as a dig at many of the "named" cable manufacturers :)
     
  16. Cambo

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    Agreed :smashin: I wasn't having a go Mike. Just explaining my reason for not buying a named cable costing £400 and upwards - as you also concur.
    I stuck in the link above as I found it of immense benefit to me. I got it off this forum somewhere at an earlier stage. Anyone technically minded on this forum should find it of interest when weighing up the pro's and cons of justifying large sums of money on interconnects.
    Enjoy your Easter weekend and stay away from that shiny packaging:D :D :D
    Cameron.
     
  17. Mark Grant

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    Hello Cambo,

    Are you having fun yet?


    Mark.
     
  18. Cambo

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    My unreserved recommendation goes to Mark Grant for anyone looking cable. :smashin:
    Having great fun going through my old collection of DVD's again.
    The cable quality is excellent.
    Thanks for all your help Mark. It's been a pleasure doing business with you.:)
    Cameron.
     
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    Mark Grant,

    Sorry to join this thread so late, but, i saw Gordon F recommend you on another thread for making the highest quality component cables!!

    I wonder if you could advise me, i am basically requiring 2 x component cables and 2 x RGB scart cables, but do want good quality................Do you make cables or can you give any advice???
     
  20. Mark Grant

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    That's nice of Gordon - thanks :)

    You have a PM Daniel,

    Mark.
     
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    Mark makes great cables.

    I've got a few of his designs & i'd recommend his work to anybody....

    Adzman
     
  22. Cambo

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    Yes - No question about it. Just buy em off Mark!
    P.S. Owe you for a couple of connectors Mark. Will give you a shout this weekend. Need some other cables.
    Cameron.
     

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