Compact streaming device with speaker outputs

Symphy944

Active Member
Hello.
I wanted to ask if anyone has a tip for a compact streaming device with speaker outputs.
The idea is the following.
In the kitchen, there are already two small speakers installed on-wall, with cables in the walls who lead to a central place where a mini system had its place.
But now, we want a device with Spotify streaming support, and two speaker outputs (the speakers are not powered by itself) for connecting the existing speakers.
One device that is capable to do this, is the Sonos Connect:amp. Only problem here is the price.
So does anyone know something less expensive AND compact (not a 19 inch receiver), who can do the job, and looks good too?
thx!
 

muljao

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Symphy944

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TB Rich

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Marantz MCR611 from Richersounds ex speakers for £299:
Marantz MCR611 MELODY MEDIA (Black)

Although fairly small itself and has all the streaming and Spotify connect support etc, for the little extra I don’t anything can touch the WXA-50 for the money. Especially for kitchen use where a small and discrete footprint is preferable.
 

phazblade

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Just Boom Hat Amp 25W per channel
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Case
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Wireless USB Dongle
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PSU that powers the Boom Hat, and back feeds the Raspberry Pi
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Software to make it all work, including Spotify, and fun thrown in

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£100 quid-ish
 

Symphy944

Active Member
Marantz MCR611 from Richersounds ex speakers for £299:
Marantz MCR611 MELODY MEDIA (Black)

Although fairly small itself and has all the streaming and Spotify connect support etc, for the little extra I don’t anything can touch the WXA-50 for the money. Especially for kitchen use where a small and discrete footprint is preferable.

I had a Marantz MCR before. Nice, but to big.
Thanks for confirming the WXA-50. I agree with you.
 

Sam Vimes

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I can't say that it's better than anything else out there, but I can heartily recommend the Yamaha WXA-50. I took an outright punt on one, based on little more than the odd positive review that I managed to unearth. There's very few reviews out there, and not all are particularly positive. However, I bought one and thought I was pushing my luck pairing it with Proac Studio 110s. Since getting it, I've pushed my luck even further by upgrading to Studio 148s. It has coped with the 4ohm load with no problems and 91dB sensitivity means the set up goes louder than I ever need it to. As far as I'm concerned, for the relatively small outlay, it's a little miracle.
 

Paul7777x

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What speakers are you going to be using?
 
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Timmy C

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Ok. But streaming + amp in one device... maybe also bluetooth but only as an extra feature...
So more like the Sonos amp, and a Yamaha MusicCast wxa-50

Have you looked at the sizes of the items suggested in post 2? They may not be all in one as such but would possibly take up less space than most all in one options and work out cheaper too. I went for something along the lines of a combination of the amps suggested in post 2 and a Raspberry Pi running the software suggested in post 5 and very happy with the results indeed. Takes up next to no space in the bottom of a kitchen cupboard.
 

BlueWizard

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A quick check of Amazon indicates the SONOS Connect:Amp is about £399.

The Yamaha WCA-50 is about £330. That's not much of a savings but it is some.

Yamaha WXA-50

Can you give us a sense of your preferred budget?

There may be some component systems that could be built, but the above are about the lowest systems with both Streaming and amps.

Yamaha does make the WXAD-10 which is just a Network Streamer for about £110, then you could have to combine that with a general amp, which would add about £150, which brings us up to about £260 to £280 depending on the specific components.

Yamaha WXAD-10

The problem is getting a compact amp for the above system. There are plenty of amps, just not compact amps.

Denon PMA-520AE 2 Channel Amplifier

Yamaha A-S301

In a compact Micro-Amp, something like the Denon D-M41DAB comes with Radio and CD Player, to which you could add the Yamaha WXAD-10 Network Streamer - but you are back up over £300 -

Denon D-M41DAB

You can buy Mini-Amps with Network Streaming but the power tends to be a bit low, perhaps int eh 25w/ch range. Though that might be enough to server your needs. And you get extra features like Radio and CD Player.

The best of these is the Marantz M-CR611 (45w/ch), but that is well above your budget -

https://www.hifigear.co.uk/marantz-mcr611.html

Here is a Yamaha CRX-N470D Network Mini-Amp w/CD - £229 -

https://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk...rx-n470d-black-mini-hi-fi-system-w-musiccast/

But a relatively modest 20w/ch to 8 ohms. Still that might be enough for you needs. Hard to say.

By pulling your budget down to £300 or less, you are going to have to make some compromises somewhere.

Steve/bluewizard
 

Joe Fernand

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Currently trialing the TIBO range as an alternative to SONOS - have replaced a bunch of SONOS devices at home and whilst the systems are 'different' in terms of control the TIBO kit is a great option.

The BOND 4 would work well for you - Tibo Bond 4 - The Media Factory

Joe
 

Symphy944

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A quick check of Amazon indicates the SONOS Connect:Amp is about £399.

The Yamaha WCA-50 is about £330. That's not much of a savings but it is some.

Yamaha WXA-50

Can you give us a sense of your preferred budget?

There may be some component systems that could be built, but the above are about the lowest systems with both Streaming and amps.

Yamaha does make the WXAD-10 which is just a Network Streamer for about £110, then you could have to combine that with a general amp, which would add about £150, which brings us up to about £260 to £280 depending on the specific components.

Yamaha WXAD-10

The problem is getting a compact amp for the above system. There are plenty of amps, just not compact amps.

Denon PMA-520AE 2 Channel Amplifier

Yamaha A-S301

In a compact Micro-Amp, something like the Denon D-M41DAB comes with Radio and CD Player, to which you could add the Yamaha WXAD-10 Network Streamer - but you are back up over £300 -

Denon D-M41DAB

You can buy Mini-Amps with Network Streaming but the power tends to be a bit low, perhaps int eh 25w/ch range. Though that might be enough to server your needs. And you get extra features like Radio and CD Player.

The best of these is the Marantz M-CR611 (45w/ch), but that is well above your budget -

Marantz M-CR611 Melody Media System

Here is a Yamaha CRX-N470D Network Mini-Amp w/CD - £229 -

Yamaha CRX-N470D Black Mini Hi-Fi System w/ MusicCast - Mini Systems - AudioVisual Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

But a relatively modest 20w/ch to 8 ohms. Still that might be enough for you needs. Hard to say.

By pulling your budget down to £300 or less, you are going to have to make some compromises somewhere.

Steve/bluewizard
The Yamaha WXA-50 is still the best one that fills al my needs.

Thanks to your information. Great list. But I came up with an alternative. Though it's not really compact, it includes Spotify streaming.
It's the Yamaha HTR-4071 (RX-V483) surround amp. It's cheap for the moment (€299, so about £257)... Not compact, but it creates possibilities. Just don't know how it compares to the quality of the amp in the WXA-50.
 

Symphy944

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It seems to be resolved now, but TEUFEL from Germany has a Network Streamer that many on the forum think is pretty good.

Teufel Connector : Buy online at Teufel

Teufel Streamer : Buy online at Teufel

In case others have the same problem.

Steve/bluewizard
I did not decide yet. But the Teufel streamer and connector are only streamers. Without amplification. Maybe this post can be best used to gather information on streamers WITH speaker outputs = with amplifier built in.
The TIBO BOND 4 seems great for its price. But availability is a problem...
 

Joe Fernand

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'Sneak preview of your experiences here?' - it works very well, easily replaces my SONOS devices, much smaller, lower cost, sounds good and the App is good too (I am using the iOS version).

I like having Bluetooth (on the units which offer BT support) and like the preset Radio station buttons on the various devices.

I like the portability of the battery powered units - the battery seems to last forever.

I miss not having a desktop App, would like control over the inbuilt 'voice' (I believe that is coming) and you have to physically take the devices out of Standby using a button on each unit.

The units sync up quickly in grouped mode and stay 'in sync'.

Joe

PS Get in touch if you are finding stock difficult to source.
 

BlueWizard

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...But the Teufel streamer and connector are only streamers. Without amplification. ...

Well one of several possible options is to connect a Streamer to an Amp.

You've been given a long list of options, do any of them appeal to you?

Not a compact unit, but the Yamaha RN602 Network Receiver is only £320. That is a lot of amp, though not exactly tiny in size -

Yamaha R-N602

I don't think you have given us a working budget yet? That will help frame everything.

If you want something really compact consider -

SMSL AD-18 Amp with DAC, Bluetooth, 45w/ch (8 ohms) - £122 -

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AD18-Stereo-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN/

Shenzhen ShuangMuSanLin Electronic - AD-18 Amplifier

Combine that with the Yamaha WXAD-10 Network Streamer - £120 -

Yamaha WXAD-10

For about £245, you have a very compact working system.

Alternately the Yamaha WXA-50 (50w/ch, Streaming) - £330 -

Yamaha WXA-50

MusicCast WXA-50 - Overview - Yamaha - UK and Ireland

The Yamaha WXA-50 is probably your best bet in a compact system.

Steve/bluewizard
 
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Symphy944

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Well one of several possible options is to connect a Streamer to an Amp.

You've been given a long list of options, do any of them appeal to you?

Not a compact unit, but the Yamaha RN602 Network Receiver is only £320. That is a lot of amp, though not exactly tiny in size -

Yamaha R-N602

I don't think you have given us a working budget yet? That will help frame everything.

If you want something really compact consider -

SMSL AD-18 Amp with DAC, Bluetooth, 45w/ch (8 ohms) - £122 -

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AD18-Stereo-Amplifier-Bluetooth-Subwoofer/dp/B071JN7GXN/

Shenzhen ShuangMuSanLin Electronic Co., Ltd.

Combine that with the Yamaha WXAD-10 Network Streamer - £120 -

Yamaha WXAD-10

For about £245, you have a very compact working system.

Alternately the Yamaha WXA-50 (50w/ch, Streaming) - £330 -

Yamaha WXA-50

MusicCast WXA-50 - Overview - Yamaha - UK and Ireland

The Yamaha WXA-50 is probably your best bet in a compact system.

Steve/bluewizard
Of coarse I know you can connect the Teufel streamers to an amp. But I'm first trying to find something with Spotify support and an amp in one device.
About your list.
• The Yamaha R-N602: fantastic looking amplifier, great price, and shure it plays fantastic, but I'm not able to find it here in Belgium for less then €415. And yes, it is big...
• The SMSL AD-18: cute. Great format. But no Spotify built in. Sound quality??
• The Yamaha WXAD. Good addition, but two boxes, and cables...
• The Yamaha MusicCast WXA-50. Best option if you ask me. But still the price...

Thanks for the information.
 

Sam Vimes

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If you previously managed to house a mini system, then the Yamaha CRXN470D might work for you. Plenty of the features of the WXA-50, and an added CD player, just a lot less power on tap. If you aren't wanting to blow anyone's socks off, and the speakers aren't a horrible load, it might be just the ticket. It's a fair chunk cheaper than the WXA-50 too and only a little bit bigger.
 

BlueWizard

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If you previously managed to house a mini system, then the Yamaha CRXN470D might work for you.....

I had suggested that one earlier, but the problem is it has 22w/ch to 6 ohms which means about 18w/ch to 8 ohms, which is the industry standard for power rating.

Now that might be enough for the Original Poster, there is no way I can know that.

MusicCast MCR-N470D - Overview - Yamaha - UK and Ireland

Other than the modest power, everything else looks pretty good.

Steve/bluewizard
 

TB Rich

Well-known Member
I know a CCA and small amp has been suggested, but doesn't meet the 1 box criteria, however what about a small amp with an actual USB charging socket that you could power a CCA from? That way it's still only 1 power plug and cable, with just a small usb lead from amp to CCA and velcro the CCA to the amp.

Monacor SA-100 Compact Stereo Amplifier with USB, 2x25W 8 Ohms - 3 Year Warranty 4007754226942 | eBay

Might not be the last word in looks, but 3yr warranty at £96! It's almost identically sized to the WXA-50 too, and with the cost of a CCA added is probably close to 1/3rd the price.

No doubt other options but I've only had a cursory look.
 

Symphy944

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I know a CCA and small amp has been suggested, but doesn't meet the 1 box criteria, however what about a small amp with an actual USB charging socket that you could power a CCA from? That way it's still only 1 power plug and cable, with just a small usb lead from amp to CCA and velcro the CCA to the amp.

Monacor SA-100 Compact Stereo Amplifier with USB, 2x25W 8 Ohms - 3 Year Warranty 4007754226942 | eBay

Might not be the last word in looks, but 3yr warranty at £96! It's almost identically sized to the WXA-50 too, and with the cost of a CCA added is probably close to 1/3rd the price.

No doubt other options but I've only had a cursory look.
Cute little amp. And not a bad idea. But we opted for the Tibo
 

TB Rich

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Looks a nice bit of kit that, especially for the money. It's a real shame it doesn't have AirPlay or Amazon Music though - however I could use BT to it....quite tempted by one!
 

Symphy944

Active Member
Looks a nice bit of kit that, especially for the money. It's a real shame it doesn't have AirPlay or Amazon Music though - however I could use BT to it....quite tempted by one!
I was surprised to see that Airplay does work! So I contacted TIBO electronics and they confirm that Airplay works though they don't advertise this because Apple music is not yet approved on there app.
We tried it with spotify free on the iPhone. Works fine.
 

TB Rich

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Perfect thanks for that. Couple of ceiling speakers and perfect bedroom system :)
 

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