Compact 5.1 system to replace soundbase/sub combo

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  1. dean_brfc

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    Last week I bought a Canton DM55 + Yamaha SRT700BLB subwoofer to replace a Tannoy Mercury V1 bookshelf speaker set-up and I'm really not impressed with it at all. The drop in quality for music playback is too big.

    I need a compact system (the single reason for getting rid of the Tannoys) with about £300 to spend on the whole thing. Considering these two, with the rest going towards a receiver: Denon SYS-2020 5.1 Speaker system - Superfi / PIONEER S-HS100Black 5.1 Speaker Package

    Would they big a improvement over the Canton? Are there any alternatives? I've had a stereo speaker set-up for the last 10 years so I'm new to all this.
     
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    You can get small speakers that will sound good with music and movies but they will cost you more. Your issue seems to be your expectation for the budget you have. Your old Tannoys would not have been a lot less in terms of cost for the pair than the full 5.1 systems you are looking at so you can not really expect the sound quality to be as good. So you either need to increase your budget or decrease your expectations.
     
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    I thought I had, but maybe not enough!

    What would you recommend if I could increase the budget?
     
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    If you want a reasonable music performance from a sub/satellite system then you probably need to be looking at £700-800 or so for a full 5.1 system if not more.
    The best advice is you go and listen to a few options and then decide yourself where the best cost/performance balance lies. Bear in mind the V1s sold for £150 per pair so a full 5.1 system of them with sub would have been over £600. Taking into account inflation and going to a smaller speaker then you may need to double that price to really match the music quality.
     
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    Ouch. I definitely can't stretch that far.

    Now really all I'm aiming for a significant improvement over the Canton soundbase. If I can do that I'll be happy.

    What do you think of this on eBay? Lack of model numbers don't help though! Kef 5.1 Speakers And Subwoofer Plus Pioneer Av Receiver | eBay
     
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    Those speakers on evil bay look like the HTS 1001 system and are quite robust speakers, the weak link is the sub. It doesn't say what the receiver is. The ad is too vague, steer clear. Have you searched the classifieds on here.
     
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    Looks like the old pioneer 300 slimline amp that was not that great either. Seems a lot of money for what it is to me.
     
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    I'll have a proper trawl through this evening. My speaker size limitation is restricting my options a lot after having a quick browse just now.

    Glad I asked here first, thought it was a good deal when I first saw it. :)
     
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    I've spotted this on Onkyo receiver on Richer Sounds for £80: Richer Sounds - The UK's Hi-Fi, Home Cinema & TV Specialists!

    If I budget £250 for a 5.1 speaker system in the classifieds, what sort of thing should be I looking at around that price? I'll probably need to wall mount as well so that'll need to be factored in.
     
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    Most of the small satellite speakers will come with wall mounts, KEF Eggs certainly do. If you find any make sure they are present.
     
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    If you used your current sub then could look at better speakers with your budget. You may be able to get 3 or 4 series 1 b&w m1s for your budget which would give you a great sound. You could then buy the other speakers later as funds allow.
     
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    Under similar size constraints I recently purchased the mission m3 cubed 5.1 speakers along with the marantz slimline nr1607 receiver
     
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    Thanks. I don't think I can stretch to the Marantz, pretty set on the Onkyo I posted above to leave me more money for speakers. Going to try and stretch the budget to M3's though, they seem to be the best around my price range.
     
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    The speakers and receiver set me back £800 combined from hi-fi confidential and superfi respectively. So if you were thinking of upping your budget to around this mark which has already been recommended then there a good option. I've been very impressed with the setup for the size of the amp and speakers.
     
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    Would upgrading the receiver make a huge difference? I was always under the impression (perhaps mistakenly) that the sound isn't that different between receivers? My plan is to get that Onkyo for £80, which does everything I want (including Bluetooth which a lot seem to lack) and throw whatever else I can get together at speakers. Is this that a mistake, should I be putting more towards the receiver? £800 is a big leap from my initial £300, not sure I can do that so soon after Christmas!
     
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    It's a difficult balancing act on a tight budget. Would a better receiver be better with entry level speakers, possibly yes if the receiver has better dacs or amp circuit. Would better speakers sound better with the Onkyo, this I doubt because the limitation is with the amp.

    However, in your situation at this time I would invest in better speakers even though you may not get much more increase in performance. It will be easier and cheaper to upgrade the receiver in future. Speakers can be upgraded gradually. Receiver technology and performance seems to change every year, yet 10 year old speakers will sound just as good now as they did ten years ago.
     
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    This. The only reason for me spending what I did on the amp was because I were starting from scratch again. I wanted the lowest profile amp with the most up to date codecs and features that would last me a good few years and give me the option of upgrading from 5.1 to either 7.1/7.2/5.1.2 in the future.

    With your situation I would also recommend spending the extra on the speakers in this case as with mentioned above good speakers always sound good. Receiver technology evolves more quickly and with the onkyo for £80 that's pretty good
     

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